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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2020, 02:54:24 AM »
German military or railway - Richard Bosse & Co. - Amtsanschliesser 33
Intermediate set to connect magneto phones or exchanges to automatic lines. Works as a "normal" automatic phone, too. AC buzzer on board. Stamped "DR" (Deutsche Reichsbahn, railway). Refurbished at railway workshop in Munich post-war.
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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2020, 08:17:02 AM »
That is an awesome collection.
Very impressive.
Thanks for posting! :)

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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2020, 12:31:10 PM »
Unknown French wooden desk phone made from earlier parts, presumably 1950ies. Fragments of an unusual "Elastophone" handset cord. Handset is incomplete.
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=23833.msg238298#new






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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2020, 01:11:32 PM »
German "Protos" (Siemens & Halske rental) intermediate desk set for 2 office lines and PABX

The name Protos pops up several times during the S&H history.
First, they bought a motor company of that name in 1908 to get into the auto business. This branch was spun off around 1928 and disappeared.
Second, Siemens purchased the swiss "Protos Telephonwerke AG" in Albisrieden 1922. The company was renamed, and my phone probably was not produced there!
Siemens used the Protos brand with a pentagon logo for various electric appliances from 1925 on. The Protos telephones were probably an answer to Harry Fuld's very successful rental business. Until then, Siemens had preferred to sell their systems. The Protos brand was abandoned in the 1930ies until in the 1990ies (!) a "Protos" vacuum cleaner appeared with the old pentagon logo. Again, the marketing faded out soon.

The phone has markings from 1926. It has terminals for 2 office lines and 1 private automatic exchange. The operator picked up incoming calls from the office line, put them on hold and called the desired extension. The called party was notified "office call for you on line 1 or 2", then the extension was switched to the respective line. On all other phones  "line busy" signals came on.
Kinda complicated - Siemens stayed with the system for a while.
The phone came dusty, but in working condition. It took me a while to find out how it was supposed to be wired. I then made a makeshift terminal board.
I did not yet polish the nickel parts. The phone is clean, just has patina.
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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2020, 09:44:27 AM »
German OB 05 magneto desk phone. OB = Ortsbatterie = local battery.
I have 2 of these, made 1926 and 1927. They were made for quite a while, even though simpler, better and probably cheaper designs had appeared.
Set 1 came complete with the terminal, but a wrong (later CB) handset. I could swap this handset with my ZB SA 24 and now have 2 correct phones :-)
A modern capacitor and a 3.7 Volt lithium cell from a smoke detector were added to the terminal, following the original wiring practices for CB service. The phone can receive calls now.

Set 2 missed the induction coil, parts of the wiring loom and only had a rudimentary handset. I restored the wiring as original as possible. Finding a coil would be difficult. I used a common CB coil from a German W48, which has the same dimensions. So I made a true CB phone out of this magneto set. All changes are reversible, the wiring loom remained unchanged (just some connections were moved to different terminals and 2 jumpers and a modern capacitor were added).
The handset was completed with original parts so far, while the receiver cap and the cover for the terminals could not be found. I made them out of Milliput epoxy putty.
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=23728.msg237105#msg237105

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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2020, 10:43:25 AM »
German (Bavarian RTV) EB 08 magneto desk set

Bavaria used some phones different from the rest of Germany in the early days. One of them was the EB 08, sometimes also referred to as OB 08 (EB = Eigene Batterie, own battery, OB = Ortsbatterie = local battery, all meaning the same thing). These phones were made by F Reiner or Alois Zettler, both of Munich. Mine has a Zettler mark on the underside, but parts may have been mixed up over the time. Extra sound holes have been drilled into the wooden case, and it has been varnished. The phone came with a model 1928 handset. I have a spare OB 05 handset, which is not 100% correct either, but more similar.

The phone is built much simpler and more straightforward than the "prussian" OB 05 used in the rest of Germany, while still serving the same purpose without concessions.
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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2020, 04:08:13 PM »
"La Téléphonie Française" - Télic P13, 1953
Simplified circuitry without induction coil, pressed metal shell, Bakelite handset in 1950ies "German"design, buzzer, single plunger. PAX phone with earthing button.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=24229.15

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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2020, 08:48:24 AM »
German military or railway - Richard Bosse & Co. - Amtsanschliesser 33
Intermediate set to connect magneto phones or exchanges to automatic lines. Works as a "normal" automatic phone, too. AC buzzer on board. Stamped "DR" (Deutsche Reichsbahn, railway). Refurbished at railway workshop in Munich post-war.
I have one too, and it is working well as a trunk for field exchanges.  The jack under the handset is designed for the German fieldexchanges from wwii but you may use a stereo jack with plastic handle, and trim off 2 mm so it becomes slightly longer.

The capacitors making the dc blocking between CB and LB lines are equal to what the US field exchange SB22/PT did, but they skipped one of the capacitors.
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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2020, 09:03:24 AM »
French Thomson-Houston column phone with ringer and dial. "Polyphone" aka monophone or coronet handset.
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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2021, 11:49:29 AM »
Italian "Fava" lineman's test set. Looking and working much like a field phone, this set has an interesting functionality. It can act as a CB phone just like a buttset, but as well it can be hooked to the subscriber side of a disrupted line or it can be used to check a CB telephone with it. It has a 1.5 Volt "D" cell for it's own transmitter and a 9 V battery to supply power to the line.
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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2021, 12:01:39 PM »
Krone Streckenfernsprecher SF 882 "Post". Another non-field-phone. Provided for building and repair of trunk cables (info from seasoned tech), so my guess that they were a civil defense reserve was probably wrong. Compared to the Italian "Fava" set it misses the option to talk to a subscriber line or to use it as a phone tester. Very heavy and rugged, but a bit awkward to use, too.
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=24685.msg244673#msg244673


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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2021, 12:09:46 PM »
Merk Teilnehmer-Münzfernsprecher 55b (subscriber payphone). Used in taverns and restaurants, rented out by Deutsche Bundespost until a timing cycle was introduced for local calls in the early 70ies. Complicated dial to exclude long-distance calls, but allow emergency calls (110/112) free of charge.
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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2021, 08:35:35 AM »
1943 North Galion that came with a wrong (french) dial. An elaborate spacer element was used to mount this dial, which is a couple of mm larger in diameter. The history of this professionally done modification is unclear. Similar objects seem to appear sporadically.
I eventually found a more original dial for it.
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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2021, 01:46:58 PM »
I used to have a North Electric Galion phone... loved it, and so did an antique dealer I sold it to.... kind of miss having that in my collection...
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Re: Countryman's phone collection
« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2021, 04:00:43 AM »
Clear cordless 880L. Unknown manufacturer.
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