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Offline FABphones

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Original or Other?
« on: December 09, 2020, 04:57:36 AM »
Some elements of this look right, others, such as the plastic wiring, lack of any sign of a schematic being attached, and the rear of dial (which I haven’t seen looking quite like this on one of these 121 models), make me think either repro or altered. Could even be a late refurb.

Could I have a second opinion or three please? Thanks.
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Re: Original or Other?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2020, 05:05:36 AM »
That is a modified Bellset. It was not made by a telephone company workshop such as the GPO workshops.

I don't know what the outside looks like but I assume there is a transmitter on the front. That would make the wiring, the hinges, the hook switch the dial and its mount wrong.

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Re: Original or Other?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2020, 05:15:20 AM »
Thanks. Many of these were converted Bellsets but this one looks odd, I can put some of it right, eg cloth wiring, schematic, endcap, but might be one to swerve? Was wondering if this was meant to be a #77?

Am trying to get more photos, this of front.
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Re: Original or Other?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2020, 08:01:23 AM »
I'm certain that is home made. Or at least made by one of the 1970s manufacturers of "antique" telephones.

The dial mount is from a switchboard.

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Re: Original or Other?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2020, 08:44:50 AM »
A mixture of old, new, and what was available.
Certainly a very well done makeover.
very clean!
Can still be improved upon.
No limits, it is not original anyway, so have fun makin it your own.

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Re: Original or Other?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2020, 04:25:41 PM »
Thanks guys. I’ll keep a watch on it, but may make like Finger Mouse, and swerve.  ;D
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Re: Original or Other?
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2020, 07:57:57 PM »
A difference I have noticed when I was collecting compact wood phones :
A ringer box typically has front bells, a compact wood typically has top bells.
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Regarding this phone:
I think this set was created.
The dial was added, the door may  of been switched out and  top bells drilled in.
Just opinions,
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