Updating my NID!

[Babybearjs]

this really is frustrating. I had to go back to Centurylink for Phone and dsl after using T-Mobile ISP for 2 years. I told the rep I wanted the tech to update my NID, yet he didn't do it and really wouldn't. so, I had to go on Ebay and look for the parts myself and order them... I guess the "phone" company really doesn't care about their customers when they request such a thing. anyway, I got the parts and did the work myself, turned out right and works fine... what do you think? I went from a 6 line box to a 3 line box, because there was a 3 pair drop put in before I bought the place and I wanted the DSL splitters in that enclosure. the smaller 2 boxes will be replaced by one that I just ordered and will be here in November. crazy how I'm left to my own devices when there are no more rules about  "Bell System Property"

[5415551212]

Nice job, make sure that #10 ground wire has a good path back you your main electrical ground without splice so the surge protector can do its job.
Often the installers used cheater straps that don't make a good ground connection or worse drove a little telco ground rod and did not tie into the electrical ground.
What you want to see is a nice brass clamp splicing that #10 ground wire to your #6 bare at your main electrical ground. Preferably a quality 'vise type' jumper clamp such as Hubbel #EM-KUL14716BG or what I sometimes do (since I am a electrician) is just run the ground wire to the ground bar of the  main electrical panel.
For the telephone collector its worth cleaning up your NID, even if you dont have land line service anymore, thats typically where all old inside wiring terminates, (unless your like John and rewired your house with 25 pair).
When I clean up a NID for someone with VOIP service I still use the nice telco grade protectors, and quality splice blocks to convert a radial inside wiring system to a multi line 'loop'.
 
I do 3 quick things to revive these 'abandoned' NID's for basic VIOP service (that no longer have a telco side line)

• Test and fix the electrical ground
• Remove the security screws and replace with normal screws
• Terminate line 1 and Line 2 pairs and test each wall jack

Then an ATA can plug in from anywhere in the house can fire up line 1, and you can plug in a dial light transformer to line 2.
 

[5415551212]

Here is one I just did a quick clean up on, I removed the remains of a cut telco drop wire (cut long ago), clean up the ground, and terminated and tested lines 1 and 2 in a 'loop'
It's not pretty but only spent 10 minutes on it.

[dsk]

Interesting to learn about this, Here in Norway I have never seen a NID.   Maybe except for an old line that is no longer in use her at a 100 yrs bulding, if we may call a grounded carbon surge protector for NID.

We have not had wired telephones in Norway since 1922.  But I had a line for many years in a house in an area with high risk of lightning. No protection available, so I made my own, just 2 500 ma fuses and a spark gap unit between the 2 lines.  

That solved a lot!  I could not identify the parts after the stroke, and the transistorized phone was garbage,  The 1934 rotary phone needed to put back the hammer in the ringer, twisting together the line wires, and it worked   

Made a new protection unit, but got no more lightning problems.   The neighbors could not understand how our phone could work. None of those had a dial tone.

[5415551212]

We have not had wired telephones in Norway since 1922.

What do they use in Norway if not wires?

[dsk]

We have a pretty good celphone system cowering extremely good. The same system is delivering data connections (network) to a lot of homes, but fiber cables are quite common too.  Still it is not as stable as the good old POTS.  I have fiber all the way in to my apartment and uses some ATA's to cover my needs  for the good old phones.  

[5415551212]

Ahh did you mean to type 2022 when you typed 1922 ?

[5415551212]

Here is a old, yet still relevant, illustration from the Bell System practices (BSP) 460-100-400 that applies to North American phone and electrical systems. In IEC terms the utility here employs a TN-C earthing system, locally we call it a Multi-Grounded-Neutral (MGN).
The typical 120/240 volt system that serves most residences is technically a 'split phase' system, a single phase transformer with a center tap that the utility earths at the pole, and electricians earth at the residence, after the main electrical disconnect the system becomes a TN-S system under the Canadian / US / Mexican electrical codes.
Since the telephone (and cable TV) systems are also tied to the utility 'ground' on the utility side it is a important code requirement that the protector is properly bonded to the electrical system ground (NEC section 800.100). Accidents due to the lack of this ground still happen, even if people no-longer have phone or cable service, if the old copper is present to the home it gives stray electricity a path into the home.

[Babybearjs]

thank you all for the replies. after i did this, I was forced to drop the phone service, but kept the DSL service. I have gone over to Vonage VOIP phone service. I was paying $90 for just 2 lines and now the charges went from that to only $55.00 for 3 lines. I may add a 4th line next year... anyway, my 1A1 phone system is working great with vonage. the main problem is that I bought a grandstream HT-814 4 line ATA and wanted to connect it to vonage which they won't do, or can't... I wanted them to give my the SIP address so I could connect and they wouldn't give me the info needed to seuop the system. I have several 564 desksets that I wanted to use, but can't because of the limitations of Vonage, they won't let me access the ATA and won't enable the pulse dialing feature.