Going to work on getting some detailed photographs this weekend. This will serve as a start, so I can add on later.
1> 8 PM breakfast today with Jim Carrey, The Golden Goose, 12+ chef's knives, a mostly-empty bar, and my Mediterranean Cradle Phone, among other things...('61 554 on rh wall and Leich 901 not shown)
2> My telco'd-nearly-to-death 1962 White 554...returning it to pre-modular; closest I have at present to a 'birthday phone'...
3> My 9/56 Aqua 500...needs a finger wheel, anybody have a spare?
4> My 8/58 Black 554...
5> My first 302, 12/47 from oldphonedude...
6> My 2/69 Beige 500...
Guinness with breakfast at 8:pm. Sounds good to me! (Actually, it really does!)
Thanks, Nick!
Works for me, every time lol! :D Notice that there is nice, hot, strong coffee, as well!
The 'breakfast' pic is actually slightly fictionalized.: It is, in-fact, pre-breakfast. Notice the butter and the jalapeño jam has not yet been applied to the toast, and no Tabasco on the eggs.:o I was just feeling artsy-fartsy... ;)
Terrence
7> My AE-40...
8> My 1947 Leich 901 (?) Got it, and the AE-40 for $25, Craigslist! ;D...
9> My 1960 ITT / Kellogg 500...
10> My other (metal) 302...02/42...
11> My 12/61 554 kitchen phone...
Yes it is a Leich 901. The date is on the base in orange ink...yes? I have two of them both from early 50's I think.
Terry
Terry,
No external markings on this phone; 1947 was seen inside, iirc on the shell. Gold-coloured metal base. Been a while since I had this open, a month, maybe...
Best regards,
Terrence
I think I saw someone else mention metal bases on the earlier versions of the 901. My 1950 something's have Bakelite bases with orange ink stamp indicating the date.
Terry
12> 13> My 5302
10/9/58 case date
6/49 ringer
11/49 network
Quote from: Mr. Bones on January 20, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
1> 8 PM breakfast today with Jim Carrey...........
3> My 9/56 Aqua 500...needs a finger wheel, anybody have a spare?
nice collection of phones ! though i can't see jim carrey at all in the breakfast photo...........just a rather good omelette. re. the fingerwheel, have you tried ericophon.com ?
Quote from: david@london on January 21, 2013, 01:26:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bones on January 20, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
1> 8 PM breakfast today with Jim Carrey...........
3> My 9/56 Aqua 500...needs a finger wheel, anybody have a spare?
nice collection of phones ! though i can't see jim carrey at all in the breakfast photo...........just a rather good omelette. re. the fingerwheel, have you tried ericophon.com ?
Hullo David!
The framed picture at top center is an autographed photo of Jim; the reflected light makes it rather indecipherable, I admit.
I am heading to ericophon.com, in search of an open-faced finger wheel. Thanks for the tip!
I hope that it is warmer there in London; struggling to get mid-twenties (F) here in the Land of Oz...
Best regards, Boyo!
Terrence
14> Better picture of my Mediterranean Cradle Phone, gratuitous Jim Carrey pic, and assorted chef's knives... :D
Best regards,
Terrence
The fingerwheels at Ericophones.com are very expensive. Someone here might come up with one, give it some time.
Also you can find them on Ebay, they do come up, and you can sometimes snag an old beater 500 with a good fingerwheel for less than thier price!
Quote from: Mr. Bones on January 21, 2013, 03:27:49 PMI hope that it is warmer there in London; struggling to get mid-twenties (F) here in the Land of Oz...
Dunno about that there london, but the snow's getting to be about a foot deep in places round these parts in County Durham... :D
This is the front street where I am, but the street I live on, yeah, unless you're in a tall 4x4, tractor or a plough, you ain't driving anywhere... :D
And I got the KX-300 phone box in shot, s'not full of a snow drift this year cos the wind's been blowing the wrong way... :D
Quote from: twocvbloke on January 21, 2013, 04:53:54 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bones on January 21, 2013, 03:27:49 PMI hope that it is warmer there in London; struggling to get mid-twenties (F) here in the Land of Oz...
Dunno about that there london, but the snow's getting to be about a foot deep in places round these parts in County Durham... :D
This is the front street where I am, but the street I live on, yeah, unless you're in a tall 4x4, tractor or a plough, you ain't driving anywhere... :D
And I got the KX-300 phone box in shot, s'not full of a snow drift this year cos the wind's been blowing the wrong way... :D
Wow, twocv! Looks like you chaps are getting '
cheesed'! I'm glad you got your sat dish sorted out before this! Stay warm and safe!
Best regards!
Terrence
Quote from: HarrySmith on January 21, 2013, 04:43:18 PM
The fingerwheels at Ericophones.com are very expensive. Someone here might come up with one, give it some time.
Also you can find them on Ebay, they do come up, and you can sometimes snag an old beater 500 with a good fingerwheel for less than thier price!
Thanks, Harry! Wilco!
I just tossed it out there in the hopes that one would pop up...if not, at least I know where to find one, now... $7.95+ $1.00 shipping isn't
too punitive, but I'm hoping to do better here on the forum! ;)
Best regards!
Terrence
Quote from: Mr. Bones on January 21, 2013, 05:02:34 PMWow, twocv! Looks like you chaps are getting 'cheesed'! I'm glad you got your sat dish sorted out before this! Stay warm and safe!
Best regards!
Terrence
I had to sort the dish out again this afternoon as it got a walloping when a snow avalanched off the roof and assaulted my poor dish, had to nudge it with my high precision satellite dish adjustment tool (also known as a sweeping brush!!), though I almost got the avalanche on myself too as I was about to step outside just before the biggest one happened, which wouldn't have been much fun... :D
Anyway, the mention of Jim Carrey has reminded me that I've not watched Dumb & Dumber in a long time, given the "winter lock-in", I may have to source that online and watch it, cos it's funny... ;D
15> Grainy low-light picture of my 6/99 Cortelco 250000-MBA-20M, tucked neatly in behind my Saitek X-45 's Throttle Quadrant.
Better pics of all to come, can't find the interface cable for my digital camera to load pics to my computer, so far... ??? So using the RAZR V3xx...
16> My no-cost DTMF dialer, also doubles as a handy 900mHz cordless telephone ;)
17> Another over-engineered DTMF dialer, but free, so OK in my book. ;) This one's the base station.
18> The remote stations for the above system.
I got my '62 White 554 hung on the wall today, in a location that hides the unfortunate shipping damage to the upper and lower RH corners for the moment.
I just wanted to get it up out of harm's way, and test it. Dialed, talked, and received fine. The ol' 'move the black wire from G terminal to L1 with the green' enabled the ringer for which I thank many here on the forum! ;D
At least it is in use now, awaiting some pre-modular parts to return it to original configuration.
IV/'61 ringer, 1/'62 dial, '66 case. '74 refurb stickers over the original date stamp. 01/25/'84 ATT sales sticker on the now-removed wall-jack adapter back. 554 BMP 2/78 sticker on there, as well. This phone seems to be well-travelled, but it is in nice condition... 8)
Best regards!
Terrence
Hmm, are you sure you'll be able to find that white 554 on that white wall? :D
Bit like my red cortelco 2554 on the red kitchen wall, it's well camouflaged... :D
Quote from: twocvbloke on January 23, 2013, 04:45:50 AM
Hmm, are you sure you'll be able to find that white 554 on that white wall? :D
Bit like my red cortelco 2554 on the red kitchen wall, it's well camouflaged... :D
twocvbloke,
Maybe we should switch handsets, or summat'? \ ;D
Cheers!
Terrence
19> My 08/53 Black WE 500 C/D. Got it in November, but missed it while digging through the HDD for pics of my phones.
It arrived with an AE handset, which I like the looks of very much, due to the previously mentioned (by me), mild 'sagittal crest'... it lacks the mass of the early G-1s, but maybe because it is well later manufacture?
Were the early AE G-type handsets comparable in weight to the early 50's WE's?
I haven't had the caps off for some time, will learn more as we go along. It stays for now.... it looks fine to me, sort of a transition between F-1 and G-1...
Best regards!
Terrence
Yes the early AE type 81 handsets were solid bakelite like the early "G" handsets were. Then AE changed to hollow plastic and renamed them type 810 handsets. You probably have a plastic AE 810 there.
Terry
Thanks, Terry!
You are just the person I hoped would respond, with your extensive AE background.
I'll bet you are right re: plastic 810, because this handset feels much more like the hollow, later, hardwired, and modular ones from WE. Quite a bit lighter / less substantial feeling than the G-1's on my 50's 60's 500's / 554's. Looks darn cool, though, and doesn't hurt a thing.... ;)
I guess I'll have to try and hunt down an earlier, bakelite 81 to make it feel right. ;)
Many thanks for your assistance, and knowledge-base, once again!
Best regards,
Terrence
I
Upon opening it tonight, I discovered that my " '45" 302 was actually a 2/'42, and corrected my earlier listing in this post.
The only date I had seen previous to this was the '45 receiver element...
This would be a very late metal 302, from what Doug posted earlier this evening, on his new thermoplastic 302.
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=8632.msg92688#new
Both ringer and network dated 2/42, no discernible case date, so far...I'll try more tomorrow, with brighter light.
It has a F1W handset, a 6/45 MRP (MFP)? receiver, and a F1 transmitter, no discernible date marking.
?302AW? Hmmm...
Paul's site indicates A - manual, W - no Bell System markings...
Here's a few pics, albeit low-res:
>20
My 02/59 Kellogg / ITT 500, just won on epay, $9.50. :)
First metal-dial Kellogg 500 I've seen, but I'm a newbie lol! :D
I'm guessing that the switch hook buttons should be the same as a WE? clear, for this vintage? Are they interchangeable, so I can locate some?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
Terrence
Don't know about Kellogg. WE used clear plungers on all color 500s but only from about 1964 on the black 500s.
Just add some scrolling red lights up the front and you have a KITT phone... :D
These just arrived today:
21> 4/60 Pink WE 500
22> 6/67 White WE 554
The lighting and Razr pic don't come anwhere near doing the Pink 500 justice; it is a bright, vivid pink, very glossy, and very clean. Thanks, Vern!
The White '67 554 is gonna need some lovin', but is in great condition.
Best regards,
Terrence
Today's addition to the collection:
I believe it to be a 6/62 Stromberg-Carlson 1543WIK.
If anybody can tell me different from the pictures, your input, of course, would be very much appreciated, and I thank you in advance. ;)
This was another $10.00 epay purchase, that nobody else seemed to want. I've always admired the lines of this model, so I couldn't very well resist. :D
The company has quite the interesting historical background, as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromberg-Carlson
It should be here Thursday, or Friday, hopefully intact!
Best regards,
Terrence
P.S.: The 1543 arrived way quicker than projected, and is 100% plug 'n' play, rings, dials, transmits, and receives perfectly! Yay! ;D
Added an SC 1243 to the collection, $15.95. We'll see how it works this week, when it gets here.
Another recent addition:
This one appears to be a 302 with a SC handset... all you sharp-eyed, more-experienced members please correct me if I'm wrong. Your enlightenment makes my day, and keeps my mind active! :D
My guess is Independent Telco refurb, field, or otherwise. Es macht nichts; I can use all of the collective parts, or enjoy it as is. ;)
>Update: The auction photos posted here, in no way, shape, or form, do this telephone justice! It arrived so shiny, clean, and polished, I was actually concerned the seller had shipped me the wrong one. Plug-n-plays perfectly, too! ;D
Gotta love a cheap, gorgeous, metal 302, with a bonus SC 'horsehoof' handset 8)<
ITT 2500, with ringer light.
Hopefully, I can slap my black Cortelco shell, handset, etc., on this, to remedy the Cortelco's lack of 2-5-8-0 TT pad function. $15.15
Quote from: Mr. Bones on February 17, 2013, 04:11:52 PMHopefully, I can slap my black Cortelco shell, handset, etc., on this, to remedy the Cortelco's lack of 2-5-8-0 TT pad function. $15.15
I'd guess so, seeing as Cortelco used to be ITT... ;D
Quote from: twocvbloke on February 17, 2013, 05:03:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bones on February 17, 2013, 04:11:52 PMHopefully, I can slap my black Cortelco shell, handset, etc., on this, to remedy the Cortelco's lack of 2-5-8-0 TT pad function. $15.15
I'd guess so, seeing as Cortelco used to be ITT... ;D
Thanks, twocvbloke!
That was my line of reasoning, as well. One way, or another, I will make
something work, so I can have a DTMF phone in my home office, for those times when I need * and #. ;)
I
love the ringer light on the ITT, but
vastly prefer the black colour of the Cortelco.
Best regards!
This just in: a way to conserve some space in my office at home:
WE 43A 'Space Saver', G7, year unknown... great working condition claimed, now I gotta find / make a subset.... :D
(Been looking for an excuse, anyhow!) ;)
<edit 19FEB13> I am guessing they meant 'G1', trying to decipher the sometimes inscrutable lettering on the handset...
<edit 21FEB13>Apparently, according to searching the forum, the G7 quite possibly could be appropriate to this phone.> Reference:
http://www.telephonecollectors.org/singwire/samples/1111sw.pdf
Best regards...
Quote from: Mr. Bones on February 17, 2013, 11:53:55 PMnow I gotta find / make a subset.... :D
You could probably use the network out of the Cortelco base to make the subset, Reduce Reuse Recycle!!! :D
Quote from: twocvbloke on February 18, 2013, 12:01:20 AM
Quote from: Mr. Bones on February 17, 2013, 11:53:55 PMnow I gotta find / make a subset.... :D
You could probably use the network out of the Cortelco base to make the subset, Reduce Reuse Recycle!!! :D
Thanks, twocv!
Interesting, and totally un-occurred idea.
I do,
indeed, Reduce Reuse Recycle!!! (Means there's absolutely no use,
whatsoever, in rummaging through my dustbin.) :D... Also means, both my parents lived through the Great Depression, and WWII. :o :o :o
When I toss anything out, it's a
goner, chum, and
no mistakin'!) And not recycleable! ;)
Thanks, as always, for your 2d; it is
always appreciated, me ol' china! ;) And that's
no porkies! :D
G1 / 211 / Hangup / "Spacesaver"
Got another 211-type phone, G1, with a F1 handset... ;D Wow!, I really love these phones!!!
I just have to find, or make, some subsets, now. ;) Any un-needed 302 bases floating around, out there, for cheap? ;)
Best regards!
If you open them up the date is stamped on the inside. I forget exactly where, I have not opened one in a while but it is there.
Does one really need a subset with the space-saver phones, or just a ringer?
Quote from: HarrySmith on March 04, 2013, 03:00:29 PM
If you open them up the date is stamped on the inside. I forget exactly where, I have not opened one in a while but it is there.
Thanks, for the info, Harry!
I haven't opened either one of them, yet. (Haven't tried to figure out how.) The first one depicted, with the G3 handset, has G1 stamped into the body, below the switchook, and G7 rubber-stamped in ink below it, so it might be refurbed, my guess.
The one with the F1 handset just has the G1 stamped into the body. It also has the Z/Operator/0 dial plate, vs the later one on the G7 set.
I will have to do some exploring inside, and see what I can learn.
Best regards!
Terrence
Quote from: Nick in Manitou on March 04, 2013, 04:02:01 PM
Does one really need a subset with the space-saver phones, or just a ringer?
Nick,
If memory serves me correctly, ??? I seem to recall reading (here) that there's nothing inside the case but the dial, and switchook mechanisms.
I see many of them on epay, and elsewhere, being sold with a 684, or 685 subset, removed as one from the previous installation, so I am leaning heavily towards subset, at this time.
Any input, information, enlightenment, tutelage, etc. is
most certainly welcomed from those who know
far more than I about these lil' darlin's!
I'd settle for a place to start looking in the BSP's, if we simply must do this the long way about... ;)
Best regards!
Terrence
The one large screw in the center on the bottom comes out to disassemble it.
Quote from: HarrySmith on March 04, 2013, 07:42:14 PM
The one large screw in the center on the bottom comes out to disassemble it.
Thanks, again, Harry!
I was figuring the bottom side
must hold the key, since there are no screws, elsewhere.
I appreciate the confirmation. I shall, most likely, tinker about a bit, once I've put the bird to bed for the night. :)
Best regards!
Been poking around in the G7 set.
Note: No birdies have been ignored, or abused during this; he's been in here, 'helping' me ;), and jamming on some of his music. (Drowning Pool) ::)
I took the G1/G7set apart, to see what makes her tick...
First of all, I referred, quite incorrectly, to it as ' the one with the G1 handset'. It has a G3.
Well, then...we shall have to remedy that...
The only date on the frame / skeleton inside, was a nice, clear, red/orange inked I 39. 8)
The dial shows 4L73 in black ink.
The rx element bears the date 8 28 68, the rx cap has 67...
QuoteI took the G1/G7set apart, to see what makes her tick...
The TX element is marked 6 19 64.
The TX cap is dated 5 68.
The phone would
appear to have been in service for
quite some time...
The (presumedly) older, (F1 handset), G1 has no discernible date inside, but has ?R III 52 rubber-stamped on the case, above the metal-stamped G1, in red-orange.
The hookswitch is decidedly different, having contacts upon only one side...
The dial is a 6A 1-'52,
Rx element is 11 23 48
TX element is 11/45
Quote from: southernphoneman on March 13, 2013, 06:25:05 PM
Mr bones, I LOVE YOUR BLACK WESTERN ELECTRICS, ESPECIALLY THE 554.
Thanks for the kind compliment, southernphoneman!
As you can likely ascertain, I like the black WE's, as well! ;)
There are two different 554's pictured here,first one is 8/58 numbers match, second one is 12/61 numbers match. I have a third (10/59) numbers match 554, yet to be photographed.
It arrived with a single page of newsprint lain over the top, and fragments of the case in the bottom. I'm still waiting 'til I'm less sore about that...might take a bit.
It was sold as a parts phone, but I didn't think that meant it would manufacture more parts on the way to my house, due to complete lack of concern on the part of the epay seller. >:(
Best regards! I would love to see
your phone collection, as well! ;) They're all good, in my book! ;D
Here's another binner find: a brace of Comdial 2500-types, one depicted.
I do like the clear number plate, kind of cool...
There's two ways to describe that colour, Chocolate, or Poo, the former sounds nicer though... :D
It'd be interesting to see it's guts, I'm guessing it's the sort of 2500 with the network on the back of the dial... :D
Twocv,
Posted a few internal pics, here's some more guts for you:
Best regards!
Hmm, looks like it's maintained the original style internally then, just a more modern network, a plastic-framed, but traditional, ringer and some extra appendage on the dial... :D
I'm guessing that the clear dial plate is one of them where you could attach a picture, advertisement or instructions on the back, keeping them clean while not spoiling the appearance of the phone, something could be custom-made on a computer, printed out and carefully the button holes cut out to fit... :)
Very useful for phones at hotels for instruction cards etc. Even just POTS phones on PABX's as many codes were needed to operate all of the modern features available.
We used AE 80E's and had no end of custom printed faceplates for these installs. I kept a couple of examples.
Terry
Thanks to the kindness, and generosity of david@london, my collection now boasts exactly one European telephone: a 2/83 GPO 746, in Cream colour.
Here's a few pics:
Best regards!
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 07, 2013, 11:17:20 AM
Thanks to the kindness, and generosity of david@london, my collection now boasts exactly one European telephone: a 2/83 GPO 746, in Cream colour.
Here's a few pics:
Best regards!
that is a nice phone to go with your beautiful collection. he has some(david@london)stuff as well.
Thanks to a totally unexpected quirk of fate, I was able to add a long-sought 172 backboard to my collection. I have been searching for one for quite some time....
This one is a fresh-from-the wall, as-installed 172B-3. Now I have a pattern, at long last! Yay! Stay tuned....you'll see why. ;)
Best regards!
thanks terrence...........great to see those pics !
i'm presuming you'll put in a new line cord, or is there is there a uk/usa adaptor ?
Quote from: david@london on April 13, 2013, 05:49:32 AM
thanks terrence...........great to see those pics !
i'm presuming you'll put in a new line cord, or is there is there a uk/usa adaptor ?
Hullo David!
I've been researching a bit, to determine the answer to that question. It sounds like, perhaps, my best bet is to get a UK 'master jack'. Apparently, this provided some of the circuitry for all the telephones in a residence. Still looking into it, then will source out the best solution. I'll keep you posted, and thanks, once again! ;D
Cheers, mate!
Thanks to a tip from LarryInMichigan, I was able to (afford to) buy my first 354 8), which arrived, totally unharmed, yesterday. ;D Better yet, including shipping, (which was fast!!), it actually cost less than the Crosley replicas, minus shipping!
Many Thanks, Larry! I owe you at least one!
The 354 was advertised on ePay as a 1952, and seems to be just that:
Backplate date 5-52, below that M3. Case is stamped M3, as well, all in vermillion ink.
TX capsule 5-52, RX capsule 5-9-52, handset end cord retainer marked 52, as well. Both these reside in a F1W handset.
101B coil marked I 52.
No ringer installed, and little evidence that one ever was. I'll have to try, and scare one up.
I didn't remove the dial, or hookswitch, to look for dates.
The dial has the black dot on the numberplate, above the finger stop, like a few of my others have. It also has the Z / Operator / 0 dialplate.(150(x?) I can't re-find the topic here, despite searching, which identifies these traits...
Here are some pictures from the auction; I'll post some I just took here at home, after I edit them for size.
Last two auction pics. The phone looks far brighter, shinier, etc., in person. We all know how hard it is to photograph black phones well. ::)
The black dot indicates that it is a 6A dial. That number plate will not fit on a 5H dial.
Later on, the dot was removed and a universal plate coded 164A was used. That plate will fit a 6A or a 5H, also 4H and 2A. Instead of a dot, the number 6 was stamped into the side of the finger stop.
The Z was removed from 3" dials (150B and 164A numbe plates) in late 1953.
Quote from: poplar1 on April 17, 2013, 06:10:06 PM
The black dot indicates that it is a 6A dial. That number plate will not fit on a 5H dial.
Thanks for the very prompt, and most informative reply! 6A dial it is, then! This answers my most important question!
Quote
Later on, the dot was removed and a universal plate coded 164A was used. That plate will fit a 6A or a 5H, also 4H and 2A. Instead of a dot, the number 6 was stamped into the side of the finger stop.
The Z was removed from 3" dials (150B and 164A number plates) in late 1953.
So, the plate still having the Z would, generally, indicate pre-late 1953. That's right in the ballpark, date-wise. Would the number plate, then, be a 150A? I looked up some dial overlays, prior to posting. The 150A's for sale at OPW had no dot, but the Z was there.
When did the 164A come along, and, if pre-late 1953, did it ever have the aforementioned dot?
It looks like 3,
possibly 4 of my phones have the 6 stamp on the finger stop.
Thanks, again, for your expertise, and letting me pick your brain!
Best regards!
Terrence
The 150A plate will not fit on a 6A dial. The early 6A plate will not fit on a 5H dial.
The 150A never has a black dot. Only the plates for the early 6As (starting in 1952) have the dot. The plate may be stamped 6A along with a date (on the back).
The Z is on early 6A number plates and on the 132B, 149B, 150B from about 1933-1953. There are some late 150B plates without the Z; I don't know about Z on the universal 164A plates.
On the 1953+ 150B and 164A dial plates without a Z, the word "operator" is written as an "eyebrow" over the zero. On the pre-1933 132B number plates, the word "operator" is written in a straight line.
David,
Thanks for even more enlightenment! This gives me much to explore, with my phones, in order to tell 'what's what?', as well as what to look for, in the future.
Best regards!
Terrence
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 17, 2013, 03:46:07 PMI've been researching a bit, to determine the answer to that question. It sounds like, perhaps, my best bet is to get a UK 'master jack'. Apparently, this provided some of the circuitry for all the telephones in a residence. Still looking into it, then will source out the best solution.
There's a few conversion solutions on this forum, a few from myself, the 746 is easy to make it work on 2-wire systems, especially if it still has the ring capacitor(s) fitted to the PCB inside, though I need to go open one of my 746 phones to remind myself how it's done... :D
Yep, easy as pie, if the 1.8uF C1 capacitor (Or C1 & C2 if it uses two 0.9uF caps) is still fitted, add a strap to T6-T7 and another to T8-T9, move the blue wire to T14 (this insulates it), and either replace the line cable, or use an RJ11 to BT adaptor and you're set... :)
If the capacitor is missing, you can solder one into the C1 position, or connect a 0.47uF capacitor between T8 and T6 and that'll make the phone ring... :)
Thanks for the information, twocv!
When I searched the forum, it appeared that (at least some) GPO 746's needed the 'master jack, because it contained the capacitor(s). Then, the extension jacks were wired to the 'master', and all worked merrily.
I shall have to take a look underneath the bonnet, and see which variety I have, then I'll know more about what I shall have to do.
I'm hoping for the scenario you reported, where a jumper, and a bit of wire-shuffling resolves the issue. If not, I shall proceed from there!
Best regards, as always!
Terrence
Home photos of my '52 354:
52 354's TX and RX dates:
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 18, 2013, 12:14:06 AM
Thanks for the information, twocv!
When I searched the forum, it appeared that (at least some) GPO 746's needed the 'master jack, because it contained the capacitor(s). Then, the extension jacks were wired to the 'master', and all worked merrily.
They're easy phones to adapt, alter and convert, it's pretty much a universal phone... :D
The Master socket is just basically adding a capacitor in parallel with other phones, which these days is redundant as pretty much every modern phone sold here works on the 2-wire system, but BT won't acknowledge that fact... :D
In their original GPO configuration, they were 2-wire phones, they just had a strap in the terminal block to make them three wire, but you could move said strap up into the phone anyway, so was a pointless exercise on the GPO's part in my opinion, and the conversion to BT standards was just a case of cutting out the ringer capacitor, and if they had a 1kOhm ringer, adding a 3.3k resistor too... :D
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 17, 2013, 06:47:05 PM
Quote from: poplar1 on April 17, 2013, 06:10:06 PM
The black dot indicates that it is a 6A dial. That number plate will not fit on a 5H dial.
Thanks for the very prompt, and most informative reply! 6A dial it is, then! This answers my most important question!
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Later on, the dot was removed and a universal plate coded 164A was used. That plate will fit a 6A or a 5H, also 4H and 2A. Instead of a dot, the number 6 was stamped into the side of the finger stop.
The Z was removed from 3" dials (150B and 164A number plates) in late 1953.
So, the plate still having the Z would, generally, indicate pre-late 1953. That's right in the ballpark, date-wise. Would the number plate, then, be a 150A? I looked up some dial overlays, prior to posting. The 150A's for sale at OPW had no dot, but the Z was there.
When did the 164A come along, and, if pre-late 1953, did it ever have the aforementioned dot?
It looks like 3, possibly 4 of my phones have the 6 stamp on the finger stop.
Thanks, again, for your expertise, and letting me pick your brain!
Best regards!
Terrence
Terrance, as for the dot on a 164A, the answer is no. The dot is only on the early 6A number plates.
If there were a dot on the 164A plate, and you used that plate on a 5H dial, then the justification for having the dot (to indicate a 6A dial) would no longer make sense.
Reminds me of a story we read in 2nd Grade:
A farmer finds treasure buried near a tree. He ties a ribbon around the tree so he can find that tree again, and makes the leprechaun promise not to remove the ribbon while the farmer goes to get his wife to share in his find. When the man comes back with his wife, sure enough, the leprechaun has not removed the ribbon....but he has placed identical ribbons on all the other trees!
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 17, 2013, 05:48:32 PM
Thanks to a tip from LarryInMichigan, I was able to (afford to) buy my first 354 8), which arrived, totally unharmed, yesterday. ;D Better yet, including shipping, (which was fast!!), it actually cost less than the Crosley replicas, minus shipping!
Many Thanks, Larry! I owe you at least one!
I am glad to hear that the 354 arrived safely. I am surprised that it doesn't have a ringer, but one shouldn't be hard to find. I don't think that I have any good spares, but I am sure that someone around here has some.
Larry
Yay! ;D
I have a D1 base, I 33, on the way here! A guy's gotta start somewhere, right? Here's the auction pics:
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 20, 2013, 05:32:59 PM
Yay! ;D
I have a D1 base, I 33, on the way here! A guy's gotta start somewhere, right? Here's the auction pics:
I really need to rub it in about you missing your Neighborhood phone shows.
John Andrews (CO) had 3 of these on his table for $5.00 each. John Huckeby (ID) got them on Saturday. I doubt if the went for 3@ $15.
I was tempted @ $5.00 each but not enough to own them.
They were available for both days.
Just saying...
Jim
Quote from: Jim S. on April 20, 2013, 11:20:59 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 20, 2013, 05:32:59 PM
Yay! ;D
I have a D1 base, I 33, on the way here! A guy's gotta start somewhere, right? Here's the auction pics:
I really need to rub it in about you missing your Neighborhood phone shows.
John Andrews (CO) had 3 of these on his table for $5.00 each. John Huckeby (ID) got them on Saturday. I doubt if the went for 3@ $15.
I was tempted @ $5.00 each but not enough to own them.
They were available for both days.
Just saying...
Jim
Jim,
Thanks! I
do deserve the rub, and appreciate it, though, next time, I would enjoy it more thoroughly, if you would use some salt, during the process! :D (If I ask, 'Pretty Please', will you also use some habañeros, so that I can
fully maximize the experience!) ;D
I paid $18.99 for the D1 base I have coming, and am
very excited to have it. Three for $5.00 apiece would have been even more of a treasure, no doubt!
The fuel logistics for the roughly 250-mile round trip were only $80.00-$100.00... the logistics for having a 30-yr old failed 6000+ lb. truck towed home to Larryville ,@$5-$10 / loaded mile, were what made me decide not to make the trip.
With luck, I can make other arrangements for the next year! Glad to hear that you got there, and back, safely! I hope that you made some extreme deals, both buying, and selling.
With luck, you came home richer, wiser, and content!
Best regards!
With luck, you came home richer, wiser, and content!
Best regards!
[/quote]
After a phone show, the only guy that is richer is the one who brought his wife ( you catch my Drift).
As far as wiser, when I have taken my wife it is amazed at the "brain Trust" on hand. She attends about 1 to my 6 and always mentions the knowledge that flows, you learn lots without even trying.
As far as content, now I want to go to Texas in May. My hiatus may be over?
Regards,
Jim
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 20, 2013, 05:32:59 PM
Yay! ;D
I have a D1 base, I 33, on the way here! A guy's gotta start somewhere, right? Here's the auction pics:
You don't see many made in 1933. Must have been a slow year for manufacturing because of the Great Depression. (The US government made it worse by restricting the money supply.)
In the 60s or 70s, Telephony Magazine interviewed a member of the family that had owned a small rural phone company. She said that during the Great Depression, all the subscribers had requested that their phones be disconnected because they couldn't afford service. Only her family members still had phones.
I notice a P# cast inside, Is that typical or is a P# like an F # ?
Jim
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 21, 2013, 12:08:34 AM
Quote from: Jim S. on April 20, 2013, 11:20:59 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 20, 2013, 05:32:59 PM
Yay! ;D
I have a D1 base, I 33, on the way here! A guy's gotta start somewhere, right? Here's the auction pics:
I really need to rub it in about you missing your Neighborhood phone shows.
John Andrews (CO) had 3 of these on his table for $5.00 each. John Huckeby (ID) got them on Saturday. I doubt if the went for 3@ $15.
I was tempted @ $5.00 each but not enough to own them.
They were available for both days.
Just saying...
Jim
Jim,
Thanks! I do deserve the rub, and appreciate it, though, next time, I would enjoy it more thoroughly, if you would use some salt, during the process! :D (If I ask, 'Pretty Please', will you also use some habañeros, so that I can fully maximize the experience!) ;D
I paid $18.99 for the D1 base I have coming, and am very excited to have it. Three for $5.00 apiece would have been even more of a treasure, no doubt!
The fuel logistics for the roughly 250-mile round trip were only $80.00-$100.00... the logistics for having a 30-yr old failed 6000+ lb. truck towed home to Larryville ,@$5-$10 / loaded mile, were what made me decide not to make the trip.
With luck, I can make other arrangements for the next year! Glad to hear that you got there, and back, safely! I hope that you made some extreme deals, both buying, and selling.
With luck, you came home richer, wiser, and content!
Best regards!
I try to make it to all the shows that are 500 miles or less. For me, that includes the Maitland, Florida show in January and the Cincinnati show Labor Day Weekend. More often than not, I have a vehicle that may or may not make it there and back. So I rent a car from Friday morning to Sunday morning. They are often half-price on weekends with unlimited mileage. If the car has problems, they will give you another one. What you save on gas may cover the cost of renting. Just a thought.
Thanks to the trickle-down theory, and the kindness of fellow forum member wds, I now have a C/S desk set project to play with! 8)
I can hardly wait until it gets here! Woo-Hoo! Extremely helpful for re-living my childhood! ;D (Yes, we still had desk sets, magnetos, and an Operator!) ;)
"Hello, Operator? Give me MEdford 7, 3-7-5...ohhhh...., is that you Myrt? How's every little thing, Myrt?" :D
Best regards!
P.S.: Please note that this is, undoubtedly, the closest that any Novus 2 has ever come to any of the phones in my collection! :D
It has been a *amn good week here, telephone-wise:
Both my 151AL, and my I/33 D1 body arrived here, intact! ;D
Both need love, parts, and attention, but are starting places. I had an 82A blank, and a F1 handset that were 'currently in-between assignments', so I 'dolled up' the D1 base a bit for the shots.
It is in incredible shape, with a smooth, unmarred, glossy finish! I have no idea, whatsoever, why somebody would have parted this D1 out, in fact, I rather doubt they did. It is nearly NOS, at least 'minty'. :D
It would certainly be interesting to know this D1's provenance...
Best regards!
Terrence
Bridgeportcollector often parts phones out rather than selling complete phones. He may be on to something: the unnotched number plates, 4H dials, hand generators and other parts often sell on Ebay for more than a complete phone containing one of those parts.
Quote from: poplar1 on April 26, 2013, 08:28:57 PM
Bridgeportcollector often parts phones out rather than selling complete phones. He may be on to something: the unnotched number plates, 4H dials, hand generators and other parts often sell on Ebay for more than a complete phone containing one of those parts.
David, thanks for the 411!
Maybe I can complete some of my projects through him, then. I seem to have little to zero luck procuring parts, elsewhere than ePay.
Best regards!
Terrence
In addition to the previously posted D1 and 151AL, this week has been filled with some other phones; they have yet to arrive, but I maintain a certain degree of hope. ;)
First, for your consideration, is a brace of AE-50's, one dial, one extension, replete with Extensicord! 8)
Also in the pipeline, is a manual 302-type. One can never have too many of these! ;D It also, inexplicably, has a ringer box included. Mayhaps, I shall have to replace / re-wire the ringer inside.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that it has a JOliet(x)-5411, Ext. 49 dial card. The (x) is unreadable through the celluloid/plastic cover, looks like moisture damage(?) Any history out there, Chicago folks? ;)
Best regards, have a great weekend!
Hello!
I have always wanted a manual 302 for some reason I think they look even cooler with out the dial. I am really confused why someone would put a ringer box on it instead of repairing it/replacing it?
I do have a 1954 manual 500 though the cloth cords (vinal coverings) are so decrepit that it wont work with them..
Ben
Quote from: WesternElectricBen on April 27, 2013, 04:21:08 PMI am really confused why someone would put a ringer box on it instead of repairing it/replacing it?
Presumably because of the lack of ability or knowledge to move a wire over inside the phone to enable the ringer for bridged(?) ringing... :)
Quote from: twocvbloke on April 27, 2013, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: WesternElectricBen on April 27, 2013, 04:21:08 PMI am really confused why someone would put a ringer box on it instead of repairing it/replacing it?
Presumably because of the lack of ability or knowledge to move a wire over inside the phone to enable the ringer for bridged(?) ringing... :)
Well...
Love the dial blanks! Just bought two NOS dial blank kits for 302's still in the wrapper. Can't wait to get one installed. I'll probably sell the other kit.
Just finished a '53 model 500 dial blank phone this morning. eBay seller neglected to mention the '53 had been in a flood. Dialer was ruined so I moved F to RR and installed a 95B dial blank.
Wish I'd had a 95A but they are rare. I have one on a '52 model 500 and it's one of my favorites.
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I am really confused why someone would put a ringer box on it instead of repairing it/replacing it?
Presumably because of the lack of ability or knowledge to move a wire over inside the phone to enable the ringer for bridged(?) ringing... :)
I won't know, for certain, until it arrives...it could be something so simple, or, perhaps it was originally equipped with a frequency ringer? Time will tell, but, either way, it at least comes with a back-up plan ;)
Quote from: WesternElectricBen on April 27, 2013, 04:21:08 PM
Hello!
I have always wanted a manual 302 for some reason I think they look even cooler with out the dial. I am really confused why someone would put a ringer box on it instead of repairing it/replacing it?
I do have a 1954 manual 500 though the cloth cords (vinal coverings) are so decrepit that it wont work with them..
Ben
Ben, I have to agree with you; the blanked 302's seem, to me, at least, to just show off / accentuate the already beautiful, elegant lines of the phones!
I'd love to see your '54! If you haven't posted pics of it here on the forum, please, either PM me with a pic, or post it right here! I still need to add a blanked 500 to my collection...hopefully, I might be lucky enough to find one as old, and desirable as yours!
Thanks for stopping by, and appreciating, my collection!
Best regards!
Quote from: zaphod01 on April 27, 2013, 06:24:23 PM
Love the dial blanks! Just bought two NOS dial blank kits for 302's still in the wrapper. Can't wait to get one installed. I'll probably sell the other kit.
Just finished a '53 model 500 dial blank phone this morning. eBay seller neglected to mention the '53 had been in a flood. Dialer was ruined so I moved F to RR and installed a 95B dial blank.
Wish I'd had a 95A but they are rare. I have one on a '52 model 500 and it's one of my favorites.
Thanks for the compliments! I
love your two 500's, as well! If you do decide to sell the other NOS 302 blank, please (!!) give me first dibs! I can always use another one!
Best regards!
One of my neighbours came a' knocking yesterday eve, and wanted me to come hang out, and jam on some Blues for a spell. I am pretty competent at both of the above, so I meandered over there, armed with my '28 National Duolian, the original prototype Copperhead slide, thumb / fingerpicks, and, of course, a fresh Guinness bopper ;).(Natch!) ;D
We had a most pleasant time, to be sure, but when I went to leave, he insisted that I had forgotten something. ???
I had, previously, shown him a few of my telephones, those on presentation in the living room. Somehow, he decided that I must need another telephone, so he bestowed one upon me.
In the picture below, it is the 'payphone' on the right of the table. Sorry the whole thing is in Bones-O-Vision. Perhaps, I'll repent, and later post the original colour pic. Nah, probably not! ;)
Well, it is a case of the thought that counts, after all...(Thank you, Michael!)
Best regards!
P.S: Anybody have a modular-to-modular, armoured cable that they'd part with? I rather suppose I shall just have to fabricate one. ;)
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 27, 2013, 02:06:24 PM
a brace of AE-50's, one dial, one extension, replete with Extensicord! 8)
Glad to see that you are providing good homes to some orphan AE's Terrence! The ExtensiCOrd looks like new!
Terry
Quote from: AE_Collector on April 27, 2013, 09:00:54 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 27, 2013, 02:06:24 PM
a brace of AE-50's, one dial, one extension, replete with Extensicord! 8)
Glad to see tha tyou are providing good homes to some orphan AE's Terrence! The ExtensiCOrd looks like new!
Terry
Terry, I couldn't pass up the deal, though I hardly need two! I just hope that the seller wraps them up securely; I would just
weep if they arrived in pieces. They are in
such nice shape!!
WooHoo!!! ;D ;D ;D
I have been
jonesin' for an AE50 for
such a
long time! Now my AE40 will have some company. Gotta find a 34, now, I reckon! ;)
To each, his own, but I personally think that the AE's, and the SC's have positively
exquisite lines, and are Art Deco personified!
For the record, all orphan AE's will be provided with a good home, as long as I am still alive!
Best regards!
Mr. Bones,
I think I managed to send you a message about the spare 82A kit. Let me know if you don't get it.
Robert
Mr. Bones,
You are welcome to my extra unopened 82-A-3 dial blank kit for WE 302 for $15.00 including shipping. Sold to me as NOS and appears to be as described.
Includes dial blank, mounting screws, dial card holder with metal backing plate and keeper. No actual dial card.
Unopened and dated JUL 23 1955.
Robert
I believe these are C stock and not new. (1) The green tape "tel. co. property" (2) The black overspray
Would any of you please be so kind as to give me the correct model # / nomenclature, for this 1978 WE ringer box? I've seen them before, but drawing a blank in search mode.
Thanks in advance!
Best regards!
E1A or E1C (both hardwired) and E1CM (with 2 modular jacks) are the most common. E1Cs were installed with 701B Princess phones, also with 2-line phones.
E1B and E1D have an extra set of contacts needed for the 2A Farm Interphone.
Quote from: poplar1 on May 13, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
E1A or E1C (both hardwired) and E1CM (with 2 modular jacks) are the most common. E1Cs were installed with 701B Princess phones, also with 2-line phones.
E1B and E1D have an extra set of contacts needed for the 2A Farm Interphone.
Thanks, David!
Mine would appear, externally, to be the E1CM, as it is mod-to-mod. I appreciate the info; good to know what, exactly, I have, where it's from, what it's for, etc. Variants make it even easier to put into context.
Best regards!
Good Morning, all!
Towards the tail-end of May, I won an auction for a NE 302, which I previously had zero examples of. $19.99, nobody else even bothered to bid. Sweet! 8)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200925384495
After it arrived, I placed it in a place of prominence for display, on my bedroom dresser.
A few nights ago, I was trying to tie some loose ends together / get caught up on things here at home. I googled the dial card number, and was pleasantly surprised by what I found.
It looks like this particular Northern Electric might well have had a very colourful history. How, in the world, it ended up in Fort Lauderdale, FL, remains a mystery. ???
Related links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_513
1st paragraph covers the timeline; ..."one of the original Area Codes established in 1947..."
A google of the number led me here: http://www.whitepages.com/business/golden-lamb-inn-lebanon-oh
Which, of course, led me here: http://www.goldenlamb.com/
The possibility, certainly, exists that there might, well, have been some interesting, possibly historical conversations conducted upon this instrument.
I am going to try to find out where 'Extension 29' would have been located...
Wish me luck, and stay tuned; If anything interesting develops, I'll post it here... ;)
Best regards!
http://puck.nether.net/npa-nxx/
This is a good site for looking up info by first few numbers---NPA is the area code and NXX is the central office code. It also gives the name of the telephone company---in this case, United Telephone Co. That explains why this is a NE phone instead of a WE with Bell System markings. Still, it is surprising that in a city as old as Lebanon, that they have an independent phoneco instead of Cincinnati Bell.
Output for NPA-NXX 513 932
State = Ohio
NPA NXX CLLI City, ST Telco
513 932 LBNNOHXA93E LEBANON UNITED TELEPHONE CO. OF OHIO
The only problem is that if the area code has split, then this works only for the current assignment. In other words, the area code on a number card may no longer be the actual one for that location. This will require a little more digging.
However, in the case of 513 932, Cincinnati and Lebanon kept the original area code and other areas split off.
Quote from: poplar1 on June 08, 2013, 01:12:54 PM
http://puck.nether.net/npa-nxx/
Thanks for the site, David! I will bookmark it for future use, as a reference tool!
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Still, it is surprising that in a city as old as Lebanon, that they have an independent phoneco instead of Cincinnati Bell.
Wikipedia lists Lebanon, OH, as 20,000-ish, last Census. Perhaps they were not big enough to attract Bell's infrastructure investment, during that era? Just idle speculation...
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The only problem is that if the area code has split, then this works only for the current assignment. In other words, the area code on a number card may no longer be the actual one for that location. This will require a little more digging.
However, in the case of 513 932, Cincinnati and Lebanon kept the original area code and other areas split off.
Affirm, I concur, wholeheartedly... first thing to cross my mind, after looking up the number. That's why I was looking up the history of the 513 area code; I have found them to be 'migratory', over the years, similar to coconuts. ;)
Seems to be, that it has remained the same for Lebanon, and I have my sincere doubts that a hotel established in 1803 would be big on changing a
long-established telephone number. Still, as you said, more digging will confirm this, yay, or nay.
Therefore, however circumstantially, it would presently
appear likely that the NE 302 once resided there...provided somebody didn't swap the number card. The entire phone appears
very undisturbed... forensically, I cannot see any sign of disturbance or intrusion in the 'patina' that somebody might have done so, upon the closest, most-magnified examination methods at my disposal.
</2¢ worth> :D
Thanks again, David! Have a Great weekend, Sir!
A pair of G-mounts, 211-types, bought in a lot, with some 'parts' 302's...roughly $14.00 apiece for these two... :)
An 01/02/49 302AW, best I can reckon. Looks cool, works great. Part of a small cache of parts 302's I recently acquired from a forum member; still need many more. $10.00, as a part of the package deal.
A small cache of parts 302's: included one 304, one 306, one 302GX... a good start, to be sure. Still need more for subsets, and other existing / outstanding projects.
I finally found an affordable F-1 5302; my only other one has a G-1 handset. This one is no glamour queen, but will fill a void in my collection, for the time being. ;)
It is a 5302G-3, apparently. I would certainly appreciate input as to what that designates.
Best regards!
302G is a 302 with a 3-conductor mounting cord and a letters and numbers dial plate.
5302G is a 302G that has been converted to a 5302G by changing the housing and number plate.
-3 is black
With an F-type handset, it is a 5302G-3F.
With a G1 handset (U-1 receiver + T-1 transmitter), it is a 5302G-3G.
With a GF handset (G1 handle + HA1 receiver + F1 transmitter), it is
5302G-3GF.
poplar1,
Thanks for the detailed, and informative answer! I greatly appreciate both. Since you seem to have the references memorized, or, at least, at hand.... what does 302GX designate? I have a II / 52 so designated, in vermillion ink on the exterior baseplate.
Best regards!
Quote from: Mr. Bones on July 14, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
poplar1,
Thanks for the detailed, and informative answer! I greatly appreciate both. Since you seem to have the references memorized, or, at least, at hand.... what does 302GX designate? I have a II / 52 so designated, in vermillion ink on the exterior baseplate.
Best regards!
Do you see anything different about it? Maybe an F-4 handset?
Quote from: poplar1 on July 14, 2013, 10:37:11 PM
Do you see anything different about it? Maybe an F-4 handset?
I just have the base, no body no handset. There doesn't seem to be any unusual / extraneous components, such as a vacuum tube, additional terminal boards, or the like, to differentiate it from a standard 302-type.
I just wondered what the 302GX might have designated. ???
Thanks for your assistance! I am
always appreciative of your input, and most grateful for your help!
Best regards!
Wow!
In the 8+ months since I last posted any additions to my collection, I have acquired quite a few!
Guess I gotta start somewhere, though not in chronological order. Here goes:
Mid-City Motel 302... from celnout. $ 19.99.
This is a "WESTERN ELECTRIC" model 302 from
the "Mid-City Motel".
I think this was "Extension 68" and it disappeared from the motel when "Curly" lifted the yellow card from the phone and saw that it was covering the sticker that said "All local Calls 20 cents".
Anyway it's a non-dial 302 that will work fine as a patio "Answer Only" phone.
No cracks in the plastic. Looks like it would work good, but is untested and sold "as-is"!
Please, note that these are all auction photos of my items, and those hands and fingernails are not mine, unless otherwise noted lol!
Best regards!
I like it, I am still yet to get a manual 302.
Ben
Urrrkkk!!! :o
Ben, I believe, to the best of my estimation, I have somewhere between 8-10... have to poke around a bit, to be certain! ;) As told in a much earlier link, I just think they look elegant, graceful, 'smooth', Art-Deco, etc. Whatever.
I likes 'em, me ol' chum, an' no mistakin'!
Here's another, from Doug Rose--- A nice example of a 1946, with a metal body. $39.99. Needs a little love, but that's what we collectors are all about, right? ;)
Best Regards!
That looks like a fun project, I take it your going to give it a nice paint job?
Or will it be your un-restored, yet fully functional telephone?
Ben
Definitely on the list for a patient, loving, hand-rubbed paint job. Actually, it's the only historically significant metal 302 I have, so I probably ought to do it up right, eh? ;)
Best regards!
Here's another metal 302 I got as a 'Parts" phone, though I now think it will be restored. $32.50. Mainly bought for the metal body, but there's more here...
Base and ringer are dated 3/41. No discernible date on the body. F1W handset, TX contacts dated II 42, TX element dated 10/42. No RX element. Brown cloth cord, restraint marked, (stacked from top to bottom), 4-0, H3C, IV 51.
Looks like it has served some time in the military, based on the sticker...
Best regards!
I've also added a pair of "Loud Ringers" to my collection...
The first one is a 592-A, 8/54 ringer date. Looks (and even smells) pretty NOS inside; has that delightful, at least to some of us, tube-radio / tube-amplifier smell. ;) Yum!
$8.99
Best regards!
Here's the second "Loud Ringer": an L1AMP, dated 81341. $19.95. Guess I lost my head ;)
Just about NOS. Anybody have a clapper cover, and screw in their spares bin?
Best regards!
Yet another 300-series, metal, manual phone.
This one is an 11/41 250AW, with an F1W. 11/41 TX date, 11-13-41 RX date. $30.00. Vermillion AA1 by the mousehole.
Best regards!
More 11/41 250AW:
Best regards!
11-51 440EC3, my first multiline / keyset 300-series phone.
I've been wanting one of these for a long while. Bought as part of a two-phone auction, the other being a NE 302. $31.775 ea., if split down the middle.
Best regards!
A Northern Electric 302, second one in my collection.
It was the other half of the two-phone deal which brought me the 440EC3... so $31.76. Has a rural number plate, no RX or TX elements. Haven't been under the hood, to determine any other component dates, quite yet.
Best regards!
Another G-mount, just love these little darlin's! :D
$39.99. Unfortunately, the wee little plastic number card ring disintegrated in transit. Oh well...
Best regards!
Another G-mount. $16.15.
Best regards!
My 2nd Stromberg Carlson 1243...$22.00.
I really love the elegant design of these phones!
Best regards!
My 2nd SC 1243, continued...
Finally got my first buttset, a 1013...
Best regards!
My 2nd buttset, a 1011(G?)... $10.00
Now, this is more like a buttset, to me.... needs a replacement #6 fingerwheel, if anybody has one to spare; this one's like a Tilt-O-Whirl...works, though. I would also like to find the correct set of croc-clips that plug into this cord, as the switchboard jack isn't very helpful to me, at present.
Best regards!
You can straighten that finger wheel fairly easily. I have done it with worse looking ones. I have 2 small pieces of 2X4, about 4 inches each. Put finger wheel in between and hammer away till flat.
Quote from: HarrySmith on March 03, 2014, 06:49:00 PM
You can straighten that finger wheel fairly easily. I have done it with worse looking ones. I have 2 small pieces of 2X4, about 4 inches each. Put finger wheel in between and hammer away till flat.
Thanks, Harry!
Guess I'll give it a whack (literally)! ;) It's only aluminium, so it shouldn't be too awfully difficult, eh, wot? Otherwise, it was going to be relegated to my Telephony-Related Christmas Tree ornaments; fairly interesting use of these items.
Best regards!
Kellogg ITT 576, most dates from 6/63. Base shows R 63, elements 62. Detroit Police Dept.
Got this cool phone from LarryInMichigan last June, but failed to get any pics posted. Looking at the 564's posted today fixed things, though. ;)
I need one pushbutton for it, if anybody has one, please let me know, and thanks in advance!
Best regards!
Won a "Brass" G-mount phone earlier. Never seen one before.
Guess I'll have to wait to see what I've gotten, when it gets here. Projected arrival date:Monday, 17MAR14. $79.00, 17 bids...
Meanwhile, here's the auction photos:
17MAR14:
Phone arrived today, and is just beautiful! 8) I don't know when/where it was brass-plated, but the plating looks quite old, as well as does the tag on the back. I haven't opened it up yet, to see what can be discerned.
Best regards!
BIN on a 7/39 302, making it the oldest 300-series in my collection. 8) It had been posted less than an hour, lucky me! ;) $75.00.
Sorry for the carppy auction pics; I will post better, once it arrives next week. Pretty excited about it! ;)
Best regards!
Great find, looks really nice!
Ben
Earlier find / late posting; came right before the Brass 211.
9/40 302, $39.99.
9/40 baseplate, ringer, and III/40 induction coil. H-1 Vermillion interior markings. I 43 housing stamp.
Best regards!
My Son tipped me off last night to a Craigslist "Free" posting; as a result, I will be meeting the poster, and picking this telephone up today...worth every penny, no doubt! ;)
Best regards!
Thanks to WesternElectricBen, I have my third Red 500 on the way. This 5/62 is only 3 months from being a birthday phone for me. Slowly closing in on the ever-elusive Birthday Phone! ;D
Best regards!
Quote from: Mr. Bones on March 30, 2014, 04:00:43 AM
My Son tipped me off last night to a Craigslist "Free" posting; as a result, I will be meeting the poster, and picking this telephone up today...worth every penny, no doubt! ;)
Best regards!
The GPO & latterly BT offered those candlesticks too, though fitted with their own dial, cos they didn't like the US offering it seems... ;D
http://www.britishtelephones.com/tsr1005.htm
Your welcome, tell me when it arrives.
Ben
Coming Soon, to Mr. Bones' Telephones:
'55 Med Blue WE500 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=11517.0)
Best regards!
You bought it? Congratulations!!
Ben
I did, Ben. :o
Probably surprised me as much as anybody else. ;)
Now, I know it has some fading, etc. as Frank mentioned, but there's probably no other numbers-match, '55 Med Blue that I could even make the opening bid on. I think we've all watched the auctions, yes? :o
Faded? PAH! It's a beautiful '55 Med Blue! Nuff Said! 8)
I'm extremely happy, and excited about this telephone. All phones that come to the 'KHUT' are dearly loved, and will always be, for the duration of my lifespan! ;)
All the credit actually goes to AE40FAN, who initiated all this, and selflessly worked to make it happen; he 'just wanted the phone to go to a good home.' Gentlemen like that are in scarce supply, nowadays. ;)
Best regards!
Well, you sure did get a nice phone, the fading isn't that bad at all, honestly, from the pictures.
Have fun with restoring it,
Ben
She'll be the "Belle of the Ball", 'round these parts"!
Thanks for the kind words, and encouragement, Ben! Much appreciated!:D
Best regards!
Not to mention the matching grey cords!!! I was almost tempted to advertise it without the line cord;-). Keep us all updated on the restoration/clean up!!
terrence -
two very nice additions to your collection ! congrats.
btw, i think i just worked out what "rubricollis ferus" means.
like it.
Hoagy Carmichael! Sweet Jumpin' Jehosaphat! :o 8) ;D
My '55 Med Blue is here! Several hours ago, but I haven't had the audacity, or temerity to open it. Yet.
Standby, Please. Still trying to re-establish normal respiratory, and cardio levels. ;) (And locating backup boxers) ;)
Best regards!
Meanwhile,
I found a Kellogg red bar 1000 for $9.99. First one for me. It has a broken shell (anybody have a spare?), but otherwise seems to be a cool telephone. I guess it's all perspective, eh? ;) Sorry for the cra*py auction photos; I'll augment, or replace them, later.
Best regards!
More '55 Med Blue photos...
More '55 Med Blue Photos
Awesome, the phone looks great!
I also like the picture with a couple phones from your collection, looks like you might want some shelves.
Ben
'55 Med Blue
'55 Med Blue
That beauty will "clean up nicely" (as I say way too often)!
Nice phone, Mr. Bones! I like the original dial card too.
Terrence,
Glad this phone has found It's way to someone who appreciates it as much as you do. I'm sure it will get the royal treatment!
-Frank
Quote from: AE40FAN on April 07, 2014, 04:40:30 PM
Terrence,
Glad this phone has found It's way to someone who appreciates it as much as you do. I'm sure it will get the royal treatment!
-Frank
Thanks again,Frank!
None of this would have been possible, with you, Sir! 8)
Best regards!
Received a couple more phones today. First, my very first Kellogg redbar. It appears (is stamped on baseplate) to be a model 1062. No ringer, just the interconnection block. The 1062 would seem to jibe with Page 11 in the 1948 Kellogg catalog, found here (http://www.strombergcarlsontelephone.com/kellogg/PDF/1948_CAT_1000.pdf). $19.99.
Best regards!
I also received a potential Parts D1.
Boy, is it ever 'Barn-Fresh! E1A handset, 1234 stamped in blue-green ink in RX cap. Can't (yet) get the TX cap, or the baseplate off of it. Didn't try very hard, it's beddy-bye time. ;) $40.99
I mostly bought it for the E1A handset, hookswitch and plunger,and the earlier (than I have) Apparatus Blank; it is more domed than the 82A-3's I currently have.
Best regards!
'55 Med Blue
Took it open tonight, to appraise condition. Nothing worse than some small dust-bunnies. Yay! Dates appear to largely match 10/55, except shell is a litttle later, perhaps a replacement for a broken one? Gotta love that Soft Plastic smell (whiff)! 8)
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 08, 2014, 12:00:06 AM
...potential parts D1.
E1A handset, 1234 stamped in blue-green ink in RX cap. Can't (yet) get the TX cap, or the baseplate off of it. $40.99
I mostly bought it for the E1A handset, hookswitch and plunger,and the earlier (than I have) Apparatus Blank; it is more domed than the 82A-3's I currently have.
I managed to get the base plate off the D1, by loosening the screws part of the way, then gentle, repeated application of a 'base plate separator tool', ie.; an 8" piece of 1x4 oak scrap. ;) Avoided any pry marks, etc., that way... :D
The insides are
remarkably pristine, despite my fears from viewing the outside. Base is marked I-32 in vermillion ink, making it, iirc, the 2nd oldest phone I have, next to my 151AL.
As it has a 4-conductor line cord, I'm guessing that it was (is) wired up in 202 configuration, for anti-sidetone operation. I'll have to check my resources to confirm this.
I'm not sure, yet, what the apparatus blank is...I saw 50x and 80x referenced in the BSP's I searched out on TCI, but no pics... time will tell... ;)
Best regards!
That's the correct apparatus blank for the D-1. 82A-3 has a terminal strip (not needed here) and also larger screws for the H-1 (302). Usually when you find an 82A-3 on a 202, it means they have enlarged the holes designed for #4 screws so that they can use the wrong apparatus blank.
Quote from: poplar1 on April 10, 2014, 10:59:14 PM
That's the correct apparatus blank for the D-1.
Thanks, as always, for sharing your knowledge, David! I can't tell you how very much it is always appreciated.
What would be the correct nomenclature, for this correct apparatus blank for the D1's; I'm still a bit mystified... ???
Best regards!
Late, but not never. From 24MAR14.
Won this AE40 from celnout, $9.99. Appears it might have a frequency ringer. Appears to be a 'heavy' AE40 per Doug Rose's recent posts. Appears to have a #29? dial. I could use a butler's handle carry handle / strap, and the appropriate plunger mounts to accommodate one, if anybody has a spare. Thanks!
Best regards!
"Dial Opening Apparatus Blanks:"
50B--553A Wall Set
50C--50 Type Coin Collector
50D--50 AL Desk Stand
50E--51 AL Desk Stand
50H--"B" Type Handset Mounting
50J--"D" Type Handset Mounting
82A--"H" Type Handset Mounting (302 etc.)
Ref: WE Catalogs #7, #9
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 11, 2014, 01:19:52 AM
Quote from: poplar1 on April 10, 2014, 10:59:14 PM
That's the correct apparatus blank for the D-1.
Thanks, as always, for sharing your knowledge, David! I can't tell you how very much it is always appreciated.
What would be the correct nomenclature, for this correct apparatus blank for the D1's; I'm still a bit mystified... ???
Best regards!
My first AE80! :D
About ten days ago, thanks to the kindness and generosity of Adam, here on the forum, I received my first AE80, for the cost of postage! Thanks, again, Adam! ;D
I haven't been 'under the hood', to look at its dates, to determine what handset I need to attach, but am lacking an AE handset cord, line cord, and straight line ringer to make fully functional. Might procure others, for the interim, if no ready spares pop up..
I'm very delighted to finally have an AE80, and once again, very grateful for Adam's kindness!
Best regards!
Nice, it even has the rural dial plate.
Ben
Ben, it's a convertible, has both bezels, seen in the first pic. So, I can be my naturally dumb rural hick self, or pose as a 'sophistimicated' (sic) Big City Slicker! ;) Best of both worlds!
Best regards!
11 / 1937 Non-vented 302. Very cool, sez I. 8) $125.00 + ship, from ePay.
Best regards!
Quote from: Mr. Bones on May 26, 2014, 06:08:32 PM
11 / 1937 Non-vented 302. Very cool, sez I. 8)
Best regards!
That looks like a celluloid dial plate in excellent condition and barely discolored.
Larry
11 / 1937 Non-vented 302, continued. Looking for an appropriate ringer, if anybody has a spare for sale.
Best regards!
Quote from: Mr. Bones on May 26, 2014, 06:08:32 PM
11 / 1937 Non-vented 302. Very cool, sez I. 8)
Best regards!
I "sez" very cool, too!
Ben
(Painted) Pink 2500 from celnout:
This was largely a sacrifice play, as my Daughter-in-Law has been fondly eyeballin' the soft pink 500 that I got from Vern P. Yeah, that's probably not gonna happen. ;D
$29.99, plus shipping from AZ, and well worth the price lol! Now they can have a pink landline, complete with # and *... whew! ;) Barely dodged the bullet on this one. :D They likely need the DTMF to conduct their daily affairs, nowadays.
Best regards!
Been some time since I posted a new addition, though there have been many.
Wanted to make sure and add this one, though: almost to the day, about a month ago, I finally got a B1, thanks to the kindness, and generosity of SARGEGUY. ;D
I will take more pics, when I get ready to activate it. (Very soon, revamping what I have plugged in...)
Current pic is a cropping from his offering PM.
Best regards!
Oops! Forgot to mention I also bought a 634 subset, along with this nice B1. 8) Just better, and better!
That's a beautiful B1 set you got their, I wish I had acquired that one. :)
Ben
1938 302 from eBay. $49.99+ shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261616927203 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/261616927203)
I didn't really need another 302, but I'm an awful sucker for the nice metal ones....
I recently received a gorgeous metal 302 that I won on eBay. $49.99, bin. I had reckoned it would be pre-1941, since the majority of them are, and all is well with that.
Beautiful paint, with the requisite cradle area wear... no signs of repainting.
After opening, and unwrapping the telephone, first thing I did was unscrew the transmitter cap for a looky-loo..
The TX capsule has markings of S9/46 in black, 957T in larger vermillion, and molded-in F1.
TX cap has molded-in 327.
In the TX cavity of the handset 7 38 is stamped in vermillion.
Not yet sure of the RX capsule; plastic cap on bakelite handset, a royal beeyotch to try and loosen. Going to use the hair-dryer method, will follow up later.
Update: using my friend's hairdryer, and my ATG MaxiFlex G-Tek electrician's gloves, like I use all day at work, with two applications of the hairdryer, I was finally able to remove the RX cap. RX capsule is dated 7-1-38, cap is dated 9-53 in vermillion ink.
Shell is stamped H1 in vermillion ink, 301 stamped into the metal, for the database...
Baseplate is marked 7 38
5H dial II 38
Ringer II 38
Condensor coil II 38
Line cord restraint is stamped 56, haven't checked the handset cord yet...
Here are the 2 original auction photos:
I'm pretty happy with the phone, needless to say! 8)
Best regards!
Thanks to the kindness and generosity of Eric (ESalter), my first payphone, a complete, working, single-slot 1D2 should be arriving on Monday! ;D
Many thanks are due Eric; he went out of his way to custom-tailor this phone to my needs and desires, offering many options, great advice and his experience, all along the way!
I'm very excited to finally have a payphone, and looking forward to hanging it on the wall. 8)
It is also a great relief to find one from a trusted friend and forum member, rather than take a shot at one off of the auction sites, condition, and modifications unknown. :o
Now I just have to find a starter three-slot! ;)
Best regards!
More 1D2...
I'm glad I could help Terrence! I've sold probably close to 75 1D2s over the past year and a half, yours is only the second of those that has the Bell logo on the faceplate. I've been trying to keep (read as HOARD) all of those as I get them and just sell the logoless ones. However, I'm more than happy to share "good" phones with those who I know will appreciate them.
Also, you think it's fun just seeing the pictures, wait until you start playing with it! Fifty bucks says within a couple months you're going to start trying to make a coin controller for it so it will actually collect money :)
Lastly, I hope you can find that starter 3 slot! Actually, I hope you can find two, I need one as well! We have a couple hundred single slots, but not a single 3 slot yet.
---Eric
Binner SC 2500-type:
Found this phone holding down the bottom of a trash can I walked by; all on its lonesome.
First S/(C) 2500 type I've ever seen, although I'm sure there were gazillions of them, in the appropriate geographical region(s).
It appears to be a 1977 model, based upon my understanding of the base stamp.
Works flawlessly, inbound, outbound, and ring.
Best regards!
Always a sucker for the underdogs...
I added another NE 302 to my collection for $4.00, BIN,+ shipping. Nobody ever seems to want these...
This one has an interesting dial card, as well as advertising card on it... base looks like somebody had at some rivets with a grinder.
Guess I wouldn't have went out on a limb, had it been exorbitant, like, $5.00, or so... ;)
Best regards!
Yeah, I would hesitate for $5...but for $4, how could you pass it up?
I got to start watching the BINs more closely!
Nick
Quote from: Mr. Bones on November 11, 2014, 07:46:29 PM
Always a sucker for the underdogs...
I added another NE 302 to my collection for $4.00, BIN,+ shipping. Nobody ever seems to want these...
This one has an interesting dial card, as well as advertising card on it... base looks like somebody had at some rivets with a grinder.
Best regards!
Scottsbluff was served by Lincoln T&T I believe. That would explain the use of a NE 302?
Quote from: Nick in Manitou on November 11, 2014, 08:10:46 PM
Yeah, I would hesitate for $5...but for $4, how could you pass it up?
I got to start watching the BINs more closely!
Nick
Nick,
That's why I always lovingly refer to my collection as the 'KHUT', or Kansas Home for Unloved / Unwanted Telephones! :D I hate to see the lil' darlin's go to a bad end....
Best regards, my Friend!
Quote from: Fabius on November 11, 2014, 08:20:13 PM
Scottsbluff was served by Lincoln T&T I believe. That would explain the use of a NE 302?
Thanks, Tom!
I was hoping for some historical background on this phone number, and this area's telephony history, since I live just neighboring them.
Anybody know what the ME stood for? It was MEdford, where I growed up...,
That was later, after we quit placing local calls through the operator...post magneto, I calls it ;)
I
always appreciate your assistance, and many thanks, once again!
Best regards!
Quote
Scottsbluff was served by Lincoln T&T I believe. That would explain the use of a NE 302?
Well, NE is the abbreviation for Nebraska. guess so.
Quote from: baldopeacock on November 12, 2014, 07:54:12 AM
Quote
Scottsbluff was served by Lincoln T&T I believe. That would explain the use of a NE 302?
Well, NE is the abbreviation for Nebraska. guess so.
NE 302 (Northern Electric)
Thanks to a recent Classified Ad from Fabius:
I now have my first multi-line WE500 type: a 5/64 510 E/F!
Very cool, and just love those G1 handsets; feels like a real phone should, not a later, cheap copy! 8) (The G3's have never felt right to me, in use...) Guess it's what ya grew up with, eh? ;)
Thanks, Tom, and my best regards to all!
Quote from: Fabius on November 12, 2014, 01:22:18 PM
Quote from: baldopeacock on November 12, 2014, 07:54:12 AM
Quote
Scottsbluff was served by Lincoln T&T I believe. That would explain the use of a NE 302?
Well, NE is the abbreviation for Nebraska. guess so.
NE 302 (Northern Electric)
Scottsbluff would have been far outside the LT&T territory which only extended to about the division line between area codes 402 and 308 in the eastern part of the state. Scottsbluff is by the border to Colorado.
I looked at this phone a few times when it was on eBay and thought it might make an interesting artifact from that region. I have to look again at the details to see what distracted me and part of that was the handset maker, but there was more, IIRC.
PS: oh I see what else distracted me: It appears the ringer has been exchanged. The rivets on the bottom were removed with a grinder or something, and new rivets were installed. So, the question is what kind of ringer is in there? Did someone install an independent's frequency ringer or what is
the rest of the story?
Quote from: unbeldi on November 16, 2014, 12:43:09 PM
Scottsbluff would have been far outside the LT&T territory which only extended to about the division line between area codes 402 and 308 in the eastern part of the state. Scottsbluff is by the border to Colorado.
Thanks, good to know. I rather wondered about that, given the considerable distance from Lincoln. I would like to know more about the historical provider(s) for the Scottsbluff area, if anybody is familiar with the telephony history of that area.
Quote
I looked at this phone a few times when it was on eBay and thought it might make an interesting artifact from that region. I have to look again at the details to see what distracted me and part of that was the handset maker, but there was more, IIRC.
Despite my attempts with PSP to edit the handset photo, it remains pretty fairly indecipherable. Using >Histogram>Equalize, it 'appears' to say "Northern Electric", but very hard to say, with certainty... guess I'll have to wait until Tuesday, and see for myself.
Quote
PS: oh I see what else distracted me: It appears the ringer has been exchanged. The rivets on the bottom were removed with a grinder or something, and new rivets were installed. So, the question is what kind of ringer is in there? Did someone install an independent's frequency ringer or what is the rest of the story?
Duly noted in my initial post. I will give you
the rest of the story when I receive the phone. Still, hard to go wrong, for $4.00...Thanks for your input, and best regards to you, and yours!
Scottsbluff, NE (ME-2 or 632):
308 632 SCOTTSBLUFF NE 69361 SCOTTS BLUFF UNITED TEL CO OF THE WEST - NE DBA CENTURYLINK-NE
http://www.area-codes.com/search.asp?frmNPA=&frmNXX=&frmCity=scottsbluff&frmState=ne&frmZip=&frmCounty=&frmCompany=&search.x=0&search.y=0
# card is 436, not 632:
Searching for "436" NXX in Nebraska, closest to Scottsbluff is Gering, NE:
http://www.area-codes.com/search.asp?frmNPA=&frmNXX=436&frmCity=&frmState=ne&frmZip=&frmCounty=&frmCompany=&search.x=42&search.y=9
Googlemaps shows distance between Gering and Scottsbluff is 3.1 miles:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Scottsbluff,+NE/Gering,+NE/@41.846556,-103.7023759,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x87654bdf09844ba7:0xf5fd731d3050c407!2m2!1d-103.6671662!2d41.8666341!1m5!1m1!1s0x876551406fad5d21:0x55a34acf741ac3c2!2m2!1d-103.6577616!2d41.8263619
So the phone appears to have been within the exchange boundaries of Gering, NE.
Quote from: poplar1 on November 16, 2014, 03:13:38 PM
Scottsbluff, NE (ME-2 or 632):
308 632 SCOTTSBLUFF NE 69361 SCOTTS BLUFF UNITED TEL CO OF THE WEST - NE DBA CENTURYLINK-NE
http://www.area-codes.com/search.asp?frmNPA=&frmNXX=&frmCity=scottsbluff&frmState=ne&frmZip=&frmCounty=&frmCompany=&search.x=0&search.y=0
# card is 436, not 632:
Searching for "436" NXX in Nebraska, closest to Scottsbluff is Gering, NE:
http://www.area-codes.com/search.asp?frmNPA=&frmNXX=436&frmCity=&frmState=ne&frmZip=&frmCounty=&frmCompany=&search.x=42&search.y=9
Googlemaps shows distance between Gering and Scottsbluff is 3.1 miles:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Scottsbluff,+NE/Gering,+NE/@41.846556,-103.7023759,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x87654bdf09844ba7:0xf5fd731d3050c407!2m2!1d-103.6671662!2d41.8666341!1m5!1m1!1s0x876551406fad5d21:0x55a34acf741ac3c2!2m2!1d-103.6577616!2d41.8263619
So the phone appears to have been within the exchange boundaries of Gering, NE.
I remember doing the same research when I saw the phone. I forgot about that. Nice to see this piece again.
In 1940, the fire and police numbers were 703 and 715. But it was a manual system still in 1940.
I didn't find the conversion year.
The address of the Hauke drugstore was different, it was at 1513 Broadway, telephone number 60, and 1720 Broadway was occupied by "Sweetbrair Shop" and the number was 88-J.
I have found some nice pieces in Nebraska, always barn fresh, directly from the farm, so to speak.
Here are the Scottsbluff and Gering 1940 telephone directories.
Drat!
My $4.00 NE 302 was scheduled to arrive today. It turns out, I need to go pick it up; signature required. ;D Pretty comical, considering some of the stuff I've had dropped out front. ;)
Guess I'll go get it after work tomorrow, but thought you all might enjoy the irony, and a good laugh.
Best regards!
<Edit> Turns out the NE 302 looks much nicer in person, than in the auction photos. I haven't been under the hood, yet, but will post anything interesting or informative, right here.
My 2nd WE 500-series multiline: a 5/64 510 E/F. $21.25 as a part of a lot of 4 telephones from Fabius. Very Cool! 8) Thanks, Tom! :D
Best Regards!
Other phones in the lot are:
<Edit>: added lot pics 07DEC14.
11/73 Red WE 500 C/D, super long line and handset cords.
59/60 Ivory NE Princess
11/56 Ivory 500 C/D
I received an additional lot of three phones from Fabius around 20 November, and they're all just beautiful! 8)
1> Beige 1/62 701B Princess, with external ringer box. Very clean, looks like new!
2> Aqua 7/69 702B Princess. Very nice, no discoloration. Long line cord.
3> Pink 11/62 500 C/D, Very nice, needs a lil' wipe-down. Long line cord.
The beige is the closest (-1 month) to a Birthday phone that I have, so far. :D
The Princesses seem to hail from downtown Chicago, the 500 from a Cleveland area code.
Many thanks, once again, Tom!
A rare Christmas present to myself:
A nice 20SC from sargeguy: initial pic from setting up the traditional milk / cookies pics for Santa (liquor cabinet key not shown). ;)
Second pic added 06JAN15. More light, but still low. In front of my RH monitor, on my main computer desk.
More detailed pics to follow.
Did you ever look under the hood of that NE 302 to find out what kind of ringer it has (if any)?
Quote from: andre_janew on December 26, 2014, 09:19:26 PM
Did you ever look under the hood of that NE 302 to find out what kind of ringer it has (if any)?
Andre,
I opened it up today, and found out some interesting things. It looks like it has likely been refurbed a bunch over the years.
The baseplate is dated 10/40. The 101A coil is dated IV-40. The ringer is dated 8/56. The case is dated 4 18 58 1. I haven't removed the 6 dial to discern a date, but it is externally mounted, as can be seen in the pic.
It also has the 426A vacuum tube inside.
Best regards!
A few more...
No Z on the dial plate. Probably 1954 or later.
Won this phone on eBay, Christmas Day. I paid $49.99, free postage.
Refurb mark on base ext indicates 6/72, best I can decipher it.
I probably paid too much for a hardwired 2500, but I really wanted mine to be in focus. ;)
Best regards!
your collection is growing at a rate of knots, terrence !
re. yr latest acquisition..........i have its twin brother here in london. i use it alot as it has the TT function.
mine's dated 1/72. i replaced the h/s cord with a longer one which poplar1 kindly supplied to me.
happy new year to you,
david.
Here are some proper photos of my 20SC:
What a great Christmas present! 8) Once again, many thanks to Sargeguy! ;D ;D
Best regards!
A few days ago, I received this Ivory 302 from Kenton K for $50 + shipping.
It's my first coloured 300 series, needs some love, mostly a tx cap, a handset, and a line cord. I'm not sure if straight, or curly was typical, but rather imagine straight. I'll most likely source one out from OPW.
Still, it will display just fine among the horde of black 300's. 8)
Best regards!
<Update> opened the Ivory up today... Found the following:
Baseplate - 1-52-I
Ringer B1AL - 2-52-I
101A network - IV-51
Case - ?-15-51 need to look with better light and / or magnification.
Dial - AE model ? No discernible markings.
TX element - 2 49
A Brace of '37's...
After reading Kenton's latest posts about his newly-won '37, I PM'd him to ascertain if he was joking about thinning the herd...
QuoteAnd here is my collection of 1937 302s.
<snip>
Wow, too many! I guess its time to sell one. lol
After he assured me that he was in earnest, a deal was quickly struck,
THANKS!!! and I now have a vented '37 on the way, as well as a non-vented manual. 8)
Mine are the left two, in case you haven't looked at Kenton's collection.
I'm extremely excited about the additions to my early 300's, and just wanted to share. ;D
Best regards! THANKS!!!
May I ask how much ya got it for?
Looking nice!
Quote from: WEBellSystemChristian on January 27, 2015, 10:19:47 PM
May I ask how much ya got it for?
You certainly may. I paid $300 for the both of them, plus shipping, of course. ;)
Best regards!
I'll start adding some items here:
There are many more, as time permits.... 8) ;D ;)
2/60 510 E/F. with E1 handset. $45.00 + 10.99 ebay itm 739999052
I thought it was worth the admission cost, for the manual 510, plus a seamless E1. Heck, what do I know?
Best regards!
1939 manual 302 - $11.50 + 12 shipping.
ebay itm 381300311529
Vented 9/37 302. $169.06 + $11.99 ship.
ebay itm 321798245796
Very nice, I would really like to have a vented 302.
Ben
Quote from: Mr. Bones on July 22, 2015, 12:03:09 AM
Vented 9/37 302. $169.06 + $11.99 ship.
ebay itm 321798245796
What's the date on the dial? Is it a 4H or 5H?
Quote from: poplar1 on July 22, 2015, 08:56:49 AM
Quote from: Mr. Bones on July 22, 2015, 12:03:09 AM
Vented 9/37 302. $169.06 + $11.99 ship.
ebay itm 321798245796
What's the date on the dial? Is it a 4H or 5H?
Here's the info I have gathered this evening, for the database:
Case - sm. ears & buttons, ext. stamped H1, w/ wooden 'dial stop'. Riveted feet.
Base - flat, 9-37
Ringer - S11-44, matte black gongs.
Condenser - coated, w/ cardboard underneath.
Network - III 37
Dial - 4H, dated I 35, w/ proper mtg. gasket. Smooth as silk, major rachety sound, and clickage / clackage!!!! 8)
HS cord - H3A1, III 59.
TX ele - 12-54
TX cap - 504
RX ele -
RX cap -
HS - need to try hairdryer method to open RX. More later.
I will update soon...
Best regards!
I finally managed to get a three-slot payphone; I had certain things I was holding out for, for my 1st, and found a good one.
II-57 212-G, $510.00 + $35.00 shipping.
(Got a 2nd 3-slot coming, as I post this, NE-type!) 8)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161863227158 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161863227158)
Best regards!
More 212-G pics:
Mr. Bones, Sir,
We have not spoken for quite a while as I have been away. But it looks to me that it will soon be time for you to open a museum!
The collection is getting to be quite imposing.
Congratulations, and keep it up!
Nick
NE 233QF
It hasn't arrived yet, here are the auction pics, link is posted earlier.
$129.99 + $49.99 Economy Shipping
Hopefully, it is not a hollow shell... time will tell.
Best regards!
NE 233QF:
Best Regards!
Very nice payphones, or should I be more proper and refer them as Pay Stations!! :o
It looks like it should clean up nicely, with a little polish! I think the upper housing on the Northern is WE, due to the daisy-style dial plate, and the Bell logo on the instruction card.
Quote from: WEBellSystemChristian on November 02, 2015, 10:02:12 AM
Very nice payphones, or should I be more proper and refer them as Pay Stations!! :o
Christian, thanks for the kind words of support and encouragement, my young friend! It is
always appreciated. :D
You may refer to them as either, in my presence, at least... I am not among the members of the telephone Gestapo. :o
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It looks like it should clean up nicely, with a little polish! I think the upper housing on the Northern is WE, due to the daisy-style dial plate, and the Bell logo on the instruction card.
The NE 233 arrived today, totally intact.
Great packaging job by the seller; it took 30-ish minutes to judiciously extricate from the multiple layers and materials. Bravo!
Appearance is excellent, as-removed condition, my favorite. I enjoy the telephones reflecting the fact that they have had many years of faithful service, and wouldn't dream of polishing out a keeper. Perhaps, if I was angling to sell some, I would do so. As they say, things are only original
once. ;)
The upper actually
is an NE233QF-3, matching the lower. Appears to be a 1968 telephone. The insides appear, to my inexperienced eyes, to be fully intact and original. I have repeatedly, flawlessly processed nickels, dimes, and quarters through it.
It still has a 5-wire mounting cord stub attached for the subset; it appears unlikely that it has ever been tampered with, or modded.
Best regards, Amigo!
P.S. Haven't figured out a name for this one, yet...
My 1D2 I named 'Ca$h', well before it was completed and sent to me.
My 212G is called 'ten ¢ent'. ;D
How about naming it 'Long Di$tance?' ;D You would replace the 'c' with the cent symbol, my tablet keyboard doesn't have one! ::)
Or "Long Di$tan¢€" ;)
Christian and Daniël,
Thanks for the great ideas."Long Di$tan¢€" it is, thanks to the both of you! 8)
Best regards!
Received another pay station telephone on 24NOV15 in the mail.
It appears to be a II/47 191G, in as-removed condition, for the most part, although the fake vault door was present. I haven't delved around too much inside, but the interior seems to be complete. I haven't tried cycling any coins through the upper, at this point. My 10H/G master key opened the top just fine. ;)
There's lots of refurb dates on some of the components, adding to the story.
It also has the 634A subset, and proper backer board.
All in all, I felt like it was a good deal for $307.00 + $29.12 shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321921904057 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/321921904057)
Best Regards!
Additional II/47 191G pics:
I won these 3 AE 43 type Spacesavers recently, for $75.00 + $17.00 shipping, roughly $30.67 apiece...
They have really nice paint, two are dial, the third is manual with a PTT handset...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111843678290
Auction pictures follow:
My first Turquoise WE!
I recently purchased a Turquoise 6/65 554 from ePay for 79.20 + $12.99 shipping.
Maybe I paid too much, but it looked very clean, and I wanted it. It's all subjective, right? ;)
I have experienced, both personally, and vicariously, many auctions and items listed by (predominately) well-meaning sellers as 'Turquoise', only to find out they were Aqua. Oops.
It's very hard to tell the difference, based upon the auction photos, as we all know full well. Sometimes, even hard to discern when it's in your hands...
Ya pays yer money, and ya takes yer chances... ;)
I was most delighted last night, upon disassembly, to see not only matching dates on everything, but a color code of -64.
All interior component dates are from 6/65, or 2-65, haven't pulled the xmtr or rcvr caps to check the dates yet, will update shortly.
Best regards!
If it were built one year earlier, it would have had a #7 and open center fingerwheel. Great find, specially on an early Turquoise 554! Not a bad price, either! ;)
Quote from: Mr. Bones on November 28, 2015, 03:55:28 PM
Additional II/47 191G pics:
Please provide pictures of the inside!