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Started by Rurorii, May 05, 2024, 01:30:55 PM

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Rurorii

Hello,
I recently got a hold of a small phone box and payphone. I unfortunately have no keys and need another way to get into it.

The issue is that it has a tubular lock for both the upper half and the coin box, which I have never really seen. Neither lock has a serial number, and there's limited marking on the phone so I'm not sure what it is beyond being a fortress style phone, likely GTE or elcotel.

I'm completely fine with drilling the lock, but I'd prefer to not drill through the side of the box.

I'm not great at lockpicking but i've gotten nowhere with this lock.

Any suggestions on how to drill/pick or obtain a key would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Russell


RDPipes

Yep, that's a lock alright. It's a barrel key lock and are unpickable to my knowledge.
These were used a lot and the only way I know of opening it without the key is to either
drill the center portion of the lock out, but you have to get it dead center or it'll
just jam the lock up. Or get a hole saw bit made for metal that will fit the outside diameter
of the lock and drill the lock out itself, and BTW which will leave a hole too large to fit
a lock back into it and you'll have to use a large washer with the proper OD and ID to plug the
hole and fit a new lock.

ka1axy

#2
Looks like a 10 pin tubular lock. Google "10 pin tubular lock pick"

It's worth a try of you can't get a key. Personally, I'd spend some time trying to pick the locks before drilling.

TelePlay

Quote from: ka1axy on May 06, 2024, 01:27:15 PMGoogle 10 pin tubular lock pick

Always learning. Didn't know these existed. Both 10 and 8 pin picks available.

Would a locksmith be able to, would have the tools to pick the locks?

RDPipes

Quote from: TelePlay on May 06, 2024, 02:20:09 PMAlways learning. Didn't know these existed. Both 10 and 8 pin picks available.

Would a locksmith be able to, would have the tools to pick the locks?

All the years I worked with these locks I've never heard or even seen a lock pick for one,
of course it was quite awhile back and by now I reckon someone had to come up with one.
Hopefully you'll need at least a locksmiths license to purchase one. There too many of
these locks still out there. We started replacing them when they got jimmied with a new
style lock that was harder to jimmy or even drill out, forgot what they were called now.

FABphones

Thanks for adding the image teleplay. Never seen that version either. I have a couple of sets of lock picks, for Mortice and Yale type locks which work well (with some patience).

Anyone have any experience with this style of lock pick?
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HarrySmith

If it was cheaper I would get one to play with and try it out.
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