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Automatic Electric Plug Replacement

Started by Westrex, May 11, 2023, 03:06:41 PM

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Westrex

#15
I got a new plug in the mail today, now I have the question on what color wires go to which terminal. The plug is has the marks, R (red), Y (yellow), GN (is this green or ground?), and black (is this ground?). Also, how would i hook the ground wire up because  what I assume is ground is just a little nubbin of a connector.

Help appreciated,

-Westrex
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poplar1

#16
GN is green.
BK is black (not used).

If  your AE 80 has the original wiring, then connect the red wire to R and both green and yellow to GN

Earth Ground was used only on certain party lines. It was connected to the station wire yellow conductor at the outside protector (interface)
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Westrex

Quote from: poplar1 on May 18, 2023, 08:32:46 PMGN is green.
BK is black (not used).

If  your AE 80 has the original wiring, then connect the red wire to R and both green and yellow to GN

It does have the original wiring as far as I can tell. Should I connect the ground lead to the unused middle screw hole or just leave it off?
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poplar1

Original wiring required both green and yellow to GN on the plug for individual (non-party) lines. You can try the phone with just red to R and green to GN, but if it doesn't ring, you will have to either connect the yellow wire together with the green on GN, or rewire the ringer circuit inside the phone.
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Westrex

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poplar1

What are you calling "ground" -- the yellow wire? The cord restraint?

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Westrex

Quote from: poplar1 on May 18, 2023, 09:05:06 PMWhat are you calling "ground" -- the yellow wire? The cord restraint?



Sorry for confusing you, I thought the cord restraint was ground.
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Westrex

#22
Hello everyone,

The phone now has a proper plug, so it is one step closer to working condition. The only problem with the plug is one of the screws has had a bit of the thread shear off.
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TelePlay

Quote from: Westrex on May 18, 2023, 11:27:56 PM. . . one of the screws has had a bit of the thread shear off.

One of the which screws? Picture please.

poplar1

Quote from: Westrex on May 18, 2023, 11:24:09 PMSorry for confusing you, I thought the cord restraint was ground.
Nope. Yellow wire of line cord to Y on plug to Y on 4-prong jack to yellow conductor of station wire to ground lug on station protector to ground rod, cold water pipe, or power ground: *only* for party lines with "divided" ringers: 1/2 of the parties' ringers were connected to tip (green) and ground, the other half to ring (red) and ground.
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Westrex

Quote from: TelePlay on May 19, 2023, 07:22:08 AMOne of the which screws? Picture please.


Just one of the screws that holds the plug casing together. Not a big deal.
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TelePlay

Quote from: Westrex on May 20, 2023, 01:00:38 PMJust one of the screws that holds the plug casing together. Not a big deal.

Plastic casing, metal screw.

I doubt the metal screw is stripped.

Most likely the plastic is stripped out.

You can place things in the hole to fill the gap, a flat toothpick, a wire tie, card stock long enough to fill the depth of the hole and not extend above it (all stuff just "thick" enough to tighten up the stripped out hole - if you put too much in, you will split the plastic post.

Trial and error, start small (thin) and build it up until it holds when gently tightened). Such a "fix" will allow you to take the plug apart again in the future.

Pictures really help, the above is a guess based on personal experience and if guessing wrong, the above won't apply to your screw issue.

Westrex

#27
Quote from: TelePlay on May 20, 2023, 03:05:06 PM...Pictures really help, the above is a guess based on personal experience and if guessing wrong, the above won't apply to your screw issue.


I can't take a picture right now, but the screw has a little chunk of thread missing. The casing itself is fine, I can buy a replacement screw at a hardware store.
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TelePlay

Quote from: Westrex on May 20, 2023, 06:49:59 PM. . . the screw has a little chunk of thread missing.

Like this?

Westrex

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