Never seen this AE version before, what is it.

[dsk]

A friend got this and posted on facebook the picture and the old diagram.
I have tried to redesign the diagram, but what kind of phone is it?  The original was obviously an LB circuit, with a separate winding for connecting to the line.  W found a solution for how to add a dial, and get it working with a non PTT handset.

I'm still working with the sketch.
I just saw that if we want to use PTT handset we need to add a resistor across the T and C wires, 330 ohms???

[tubaman]

Searching the TCI library for the diagram number brings it up as a Type 83 Compact Telephone and it was for railway use.

[RDPipes]

These were actually for use in mainly businesses to save space like the AE183 we're all use to seeing.
There was also and earlier model of this that is a AE43. The AE83's came in more colors and had the later
model handset. This looks like a 43 but, as said the only difference was the later model handset and the
the induction coil was a bit different. Here's the differences, ae183, 83, & 43 pictured below.

[dsk]

Thank you for the hints, the  Type 83 Compact Telephone diagram does not fit, but this is pretty close.  https://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/browse/document-repository/wiring-diagrams-technical-library/automatic-electric-1/13054-ae40-local-battery-wiring-diagram-d-53998-a-i5

[dsk]

Here is an AE40 diagram that so far looks equal :    https://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/browse/document-repository/wiring-diagrams-technical-library/automatic-electric-1/13054-ae40-local-battery-wiring-diagram-d-53998-a-i5

[RDPipes]

Here's the schematics/diagrams for the AE43 and 83.

[tubaman]

... Type 83 Compact Telephone diagram does not fit, ...

That's odd as it's the one you posted a photo of?

[RDPipes]

That's odd as it's the one you posted a photo of?

That's the later model, see the newer style handset in the picture, I believe his is a AE43.

[dsk]

That's odd as it's the one you posted a photo of?

He changed the handset to a non PTT Handset. I have onlye seen theese pictures.  
It works OK on CB when the line is connected to the battery terminals, and nothing is connected to the line terminals.

[RDPipes]

I do apologize to both of you, yours is the newer AE83 from a closer look at your induction coil.
I've had some problems with both of these (83 & 43) having bad induction coils and not being wired
to the induction coil as in the diagrams. I've had to unsolder connections and rewire them as per diagram and they worked great. I have three of these a red and blue 83 and a and of course a black 43 and all work great.

[dsk]

I do apologize to both of you, yours is the newer AE83 from a closer look at your induction coil.
I've had some problems with both of these (83 & 43) having bad induction coils and not being wired
to the induction coil as in the diagrams. I've had to unsolder connections and rewire them as per diagram and they worked great. I have three of these a red and blue 83 and a and of course a black 43 and all work great.

Looks like you solved it! Thank you!

[RDPipes]

Looks like you solved it! Thank you!

Your very welcome sir, was happy to be of help.

[dsk]

Never seen it.. yes.  But I should have remembered to have heard about it.
This thread has good diagrams; https://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=11544.0
even when they solved it differently. 

[dsk]

Based on all this the simplest solution that works well may be this diagram.

The 330 ohm resistor is needed to not loose connection when ptt button is released, and not needed with a regular handset.
A CB transmittercapsule will be preferable on a CB system, and the LB capsules are not easy to get anymore so they may even be sold :-)
The simple solution of the dial before the hookswitch makse the same weaknes as on really old German phones. If you move the dial out of rest position, the line is shorted even when phone is on hook.