RTT 56A that won't ring with its original ringer

[RotoTech99]

Dear Countryman:

If you don't have a dial cable,
I can use my existing one by spade lugging the other end, but I'd need to know where to
connect it to, please.

Thanks,
RotoTech99

BTW: Please let me know when these go out.

My address here is:

Ed Burnett
P.O.Box 975
Wewoka, OK 74884

[dsk]

The diagram is here: t.ly/KTMw
The 1000 ohm ringer needs about 1 uF capacitor.
dsk

[Jack Ryan]

The terminal block sure looks like one of a RTT56. Possibly the shell of an ATEA was mixed with a RTT baseplate?

Could be a mix but the case is not RTT56.

This style of phones was made in a number of variations. This article by Jan Verhelst even suggests that the "Bell mfg." transfers are original to an export version made by BTMC. See illustration 11. It shows a shell with a handle though, the ATEA 50 came without. Are there holes to mount a handle on yours?

Jan didn't give an official reference for that and I am skeptical. Those transfers were available from the suppliers of the modified decorator sets.

Jack

[countryman]

You are probably right Jack.
My guess is, they disassembled the phones as they came in. The shells with good paint received the transfers, the others went into a stripping bath and were then galvanized with copper. No baseplate or handset went back to it's original shell...

[RotoTech99]

Dear Forum:

Is the 0.1 uF capacitor in the diagram used with "all" the model 50 phones; I noticed not all use it, it seems.

RotoTech99

[RotoTech99]

Dear Forum and Countryman:

As a hopefully temporary conversion I converted my vandalized component internal plate, of which a photo is attached.

I'm going to leave it in place for a month until I can get the parts from Countryman

[RotoTech99]

Dear Countryman & CRPF Forum:

Here is the diagram I mentioned I think would apply to my Model 50, can you tell me if this would be
close, or correct, please?

Thank you,
RotoTech99

[dsk]

It looks right for me, but I do not have this ATEA phone myselves.  Please doube scheck the data on the induction coil against the data in the diagram: 1-2 =24 ohms, 5-6 =355 ohms, 3-5 =15 ohms.

dsk

[countryman]

That diagram is 100% correct for the internal plate I have here.
I had only found one for the model 51 with button.
Hopefully I will be able to send the mail today or tomorrow. I have already tested the parts and they are good. I will also add a 0.1 µF capacitor to go on the dial.

[countryman]

Here's a diagram including text in English. I found it on Ralf's site erel.de. It also refers to the ATEA 50 but is drawn differently and indicates the wire colors.

[RotoTech99]

Dear Countryman:

Had 1 minor setback, the original dialj
jammed, so I put a AE51 in its place.

So far so good,
RotoTech99

[countryman]

Hi,  believe it or not,  i tried some F1 handsets with it,  they wouldn't fit the cradle; i guess my Kettle phone has a wider cradle thsn I thought,  and it appeared that the F1's handle was too wide to sit in the cradle.

I can confirm that. An American F1 handset does fit onto a RTT 56 but NOT on a ATEA 50. The housing under the cradle is a tad too wide! The RTT 56 has a narrower housing. Impossible to see the difference until comparing both side by side...
The Belgian F1 knockoff handset fits both phones just fine and also a WE 302 or D1.