Help identifying current ebay Antique Brass WE Candlestic model 329 dated 1904

[rfkimba]

Antique Brass Western Electric Candlestick Bell model 329 telephone dated 1904 - BIN $175 plus $11.32 shipping

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151219536147

Hi Guys,
If you copy and paste this address into your browser you can see this listing #151219536147. The perch appears to be from a 20T or 20C candlestick model . I cant make out a model # on the perch very well  only perhaps a  '2'. I get the impression it doesn't match the main shaft as the top notch on the main shaft is not engaged. Any thoughts on the perch "mismatch" clue or can the perch sit that way? 

Your informed feedback is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Bob Farber

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EDIT:  Photos added for posterity

[wds]

Nice, but way too expensive.  Original finish has been removed - you can find nicer ones for much less if you wait.

[poplar1]

20B and 20S are much more common than 20C or 20T. Probably the correct handle but the pin is missing that keeps the top part from rotating.

Here is a list of available WE models:

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=7704.msg91546#msg91546

[Sargeguy]

The phone looks authentic and all the parts match.  It has been updated with a *329* transmitter and a 144 receiver, at which point it lost the knurled thumbscrew it would have originally had.  I cannot see the stamp, but it may have been re-stamped 20-BC or 20-PC.  Needs about $80 in nickel plating and $10 replacing the felt bottom with suede.  Phone is worth about $200 on today's market fully restored, so I would not pay more than $100. 

Here is what you should be looking for in a $200 brassed-out non-dial WE candlestick:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151218199907?

[poplar1]

The phone looks authentic and all the parts match.  It has been updated with a *329* transmitter and a 144 receiver, at which point it lost the knurled thumbscrew it would have originally had.  I cannot see the stamp, but it may have been re-stamped 20-BC or 20-PC.  Needs about $80 in nickel plating and $10 replacing the felt bottom with suede.  Phone is worth about $200 on today's market fully restored, so I would not pay more than $100. 

Here is what you should be looking for in a $200 brassed-out non-dial WE candlestick:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151218199907?

I like the knurled nut and serial number on the transmitter, but what kind of receiver is that? Speaking of deck scenes of 20-Bs, here's another one, this time with the correct #122 receiver:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350949747934

[Sargeguy]

I like the knurled nut and serial number on the transmitter, but what kind of receiver is that?

I'll post better pictures when it arrives.  Technically it is not brassed out because portions of the nickel remain.  It looks "over-polished" and there is still what looks like the remains of old polish around the tag and in the knurls of the thumbscrew.

Nice phone.  Has it had some "work done"? I think one of these days we should have a candlestick "pose-off"

[rfkimba]

Thanks much  for the education. I had previously deferred buying the 20B when it was listed at 299.99299.99.

The seller of the 329 dated 1904 indicates now it is a 20s.
WRT to the receiver in Sargeguy's example above I had some difficulty identifying it. I referred to Phonemandave's website where there is a beautiful photo of all the varieties of 143 receivers made. The earliest variety without any numbering looked like the receiver . Could it be a 143 early model or an AE model receiver?
Your thoughts?
Bob Farber

[rfkimba]

Here is the photo from PhoneManDave's website showing the many versions of 143 receivers.
Bob Farber

[poplar1]

329 is the code no. for the transmitter only.

[rfkimba]

Got it. Was trying to identify the receiver with the Ebay listing above
Bob

[poplar1]

I think the receiver on sargeguy's phone would be "none of the above"--at least so far as the shell. There is an early 143 that is almost never found, but I don't think this is it.

[Sargeguy]

I agree , it does not have the lines of a Western Electric receiver despite the similarities.

This 20-S would have originally been painted black.  A 20-S with original paint, knurled thumbscrew and black painted 229 receiver with a 122 receiver is pretty tough to find.  I am still looking for one.  Brasses out ones and ones that have been over stamped are common, but an intact example is tough.  In fact I have 2 black type 22s but have not found a black 20-s

[poplar1]

Which one is a 20-S?