Need help removing a Gray Payphone from a wall

[Rgray107918]

I need some help with removing a gray paystation phone from the wall.  It was my father's who passed, and we are selling the house.  I can not for the life of me figure out how it comes off the wall.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[MMikeJBenN27]

I think you have to unlock and remove the upper half from the back board.  That will expose the screws fastening it to the wall.  Not a pay-phone expert though.

Mike

[TelePlay]

Don't know if you know it but that phone, especially if the internal coin parts (IIRC the coin relay or relay controlled hopper) has not been removed - has all of its original parts, is worth quite a bit of money.

[Rgray107918]

I think you have to unlock and remove the upper half from the back board.  That will expose the screws fastening it to the wall.  Not a pay-phone expert though.

Mike

I did unlock it and saw a bolt to the wall in the lower right corner, but I can tell there is a second bolt I'm the upper left corner, and I can't figure out how to top comes off.  Any idea how to remove the top?

[Rgray107918]

Don't know if you know it but that phone, especially if the totalizer has not been removed - has all of its original parts, is worth quite a bit of money.

I  had briefly tried to research it last week, and was having a hard time finding info on it.

Any idea what model it is, or where to find that info out or possibly what it might be worth?

Thanks 

[poplar1]

There is another lock shown in the front of the upper housing. You have several keys shown in the photo. The correct key might be labeled 10G or 29S. It will not have a serial number like the one that opens the coin vault

There will be several more bolts visible once you open the upper housing.

Model could be 50G, 55G, 150G, 155G, or something  else.

Gray stopped making payphones for Western Electric circa 1933.

[FABphones]

...Any idea what model it is...

Once you have it open add photos of the inside (and photos of the rear of phone after you take it off the wall).

[MMikeJBenN27]

Wish I could help.  Hopefully, somebody will be able to assist you.

Mike

[paul-f]

It may help to review the Bell System Practices describing the installation process. There's a good description in BSP 39.025 available in the TCI Library:
https://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/search?q=c39.025+installation

While it may not apply exactly to your phone, it should give some good ideas regarding mounting hole location in the backboard and phone back.

Other BSPs in the C39 division may help. Browse them here:
https://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/browse/bsps-bell-system/by-letter-code/c-series-i-m-sets/c39-coin-stations

[Rgray107918]

I see now why I couldn't figure it out.  We had put a sticky note over the second key hoke!

Here are pictures of everything.

[Rgray107918]

I have more pictures but I am on my phone and it won't let me add them right now.

[Rgray107918]

One of the pictures that is saying it is too large to attach is ofbthe rear.  It does have 50G stamped in red on the back.

The post it note we put on there was to let everyone know it did not convey with the sale of the house.

Any help identifying/pricing this phone would he appreciated!

[Rgray107918]

I cropped out what looked like the important parts of the pictures to make them smaller.

[poplar1]

Looks like a 1944? rebuild date on the coin relay. Most phones were converted to 55G or 155G for 10 cent initial deposit around 1952  (Some were even converted to 174G with a handset). This one was not updated, other than the "bulldog" 635A transmitter. It is still 5 cents. That makes it more valuable.

Members Stan or Jim would have better idea of value. I am guessing $1,500 USD

[Stan S]

Very nice original payphone. Appears to be an early 50G that has some 50A parts. The back casting and the switch hook are 50A. The back isn't the earliest 50A casting but it is very old. Everything else is as good as it gets. Looks like along with the bulldog microphone an RF filter was added. I've never seen a filter mounted on a coin track that way before. It is definitely authentic. Also looks like some sort of antifraud string cutter on the bottom of the coin track. Hard to be sure without a hands on examination. The 5 cent coin track is perfect and authentic. The wiring harness is surprisingly intact. Would take an advanced collector to appreciate this payphone. Value like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.