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Started by DavePEI, July 01, 2014, 12:29:43 PM

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poplar1

Can't get the link to go to just the one BSP. It's

C65.861, Issue 1, 3-22-43
Telephone Sets
322 Type--Connections
Mets-en, c'est pas de l'onguent!

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twocvbloke

All you need to do now is turn a cupboard (or closet, whatever term's used over there!!) into something that looks like an elevator and mount one of those phones inside...  ;D

DavePEI

#17
Yes, I know. It is the one schematic I was able to find that included it. #2 is the 2 uf cap located on the right hand side (viewed from the bottom), and #1 is the 1uf located under and held in place by the 101 mount.

The 2 uf goes between BK on the dial and C of the coil as you say.

However, both later schematics I have do not include the 2 uf capacitor.

Dave

Quote from: poplar1 on July 08, 2014, 03:28:06 PM
The schematic in C65.861 shows two capacitors:
1 MF for the buzzer: yellow to L2Y, slate to K
2 MF talk: red to C, black to BK on dial

http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_view/3494-c65-861-i1-322-type-sets-elevator-connections
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DavePEI

#18
I have found another Bell Canada Practice: Section 1980 402-4020-500 covering both the 322 and 522 which includes the version of the 322 elevator phone with both capacitors on page 5.

http://telephonecollectors.info/index.php/browse/doc_details/11951-502-4020-100-dec80-bc-322-522-elevator-sets-ocr-r

Although drawn in the more modern fashion, it matches the earlier  1943 AT&T C65.861 drawing.

Connections to these phones are made via the L1 and L2 terminals on the 101A coil.

Dave
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poplar1

Can you provide the diagram of the one-capacitor circuit? I don't recall seeing any anti-sidetone NE or WE sets with a single capacitor.
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DavePEI

#20
Quote from: poplar1 on July 09, 2014, 11:16:07 AM
Can you provide the diagram of the one-capacitor circuit? I don't recall seeing any anti-sidetone NE or WE sets with a single capacitor.

Its just my eyes - again. Thank goodness that I have an appointment with my opthamologist tomorrow. I am going weekly for injections in the eyeballs which will hopefully work soon, but the plan B is laser surgery to correct the disturbances in the eye's macula. A neighbour is coming down to drive me in. I can still drive normally, as it is my close up vision which is affected, but not on the days I get shots. Each shot leaves me with very little vision for a couple of days. These shots are supposed to counteract the diabetic cysts and blood vessels that are growing in the macula or light sensing part of the eye. If that fails, laser surgery is the next step.

When I got out a magnifying glass, sure enough I found the capacitors hidden (at least to my eyes) in the drawings. Drives me crazy when they let me down like that. 8)

I did get both elevator phones finished and tested and they were working perfectly, and also my dial mine phone. I still have to clean the case thread - it is sticking a few threads in (Though of course I disabled the case lock). It is likely a build up inside the threads - nothing a wire brush won't take care of. However, It, too works well and I was too tired to take it to the next step, cleaning the threads.

Next step taking the complete 1001 handsets and, using my many spares, replacing parts that are scratched, bent, or dinged.

Then the full clean-up begins on all of them. Many have spots where the nickle is dull or where someone has wound plastic electrical tape on them. It has been on them for years, On those you can remove the tape, and there is a good deposit under it of black plastic from the first layer of tape. I have found by experimentation that paint stripper will remove that residue very fast and without damage to the nickel. Of course, I will have to use some other means on the painted ones. However, I ran out the other day  and had to pick up another small can.

Gotta keep at it so I am ready when the next bunch arrives! Oops - just got an email tonight - 8 more boxes on the way! Better get my tail moving and get this bunch tidied up!

One final note: Has anyone got keys for a 23A lock for the mine phone? They were all keyed the same and I would love to get a key to fit the one in this. If worse came to worse, I will just leave the lock off the phone.

Dave
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DavePEI

#21
Ok, as I work my way through this batch, I have come across a couple of interesting Signal Corps Handsets joined together with a small junction block. These may be sound powered.

They are labelled as follows:

Signal Corps  US Army
TS-10-D
Serial No. 1  Order No. 46-CH1-42
Made By
Kellogg Switchboard & Supply Co
Chicago, Illinois

Signal Corps  US Army
TS-10-D
Serial No. 2  Order No. 46-CH1-42
Made By
Kellogg Switchboard & Supply Co.
Chicago, Illinois

Does anyone know anything about them? What are the odds of having both serial numbers 1 & 2?

Note: I have added photos of the handset elements and of the connecting block used between the two handsets to this message.

Dave
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DavePEI

Hi All:

I just got a phone call that 8 more boxes of phone stuff have arrived on the Island and will be here by 11 a.m. As always, it will be like Christmas opening the boxes to find out what Don has packed in them! These boxes were brought down by Jerry St. John, an Island visitor who happened to be passing through Kingston.

Dave
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DavePEI

#23
Hi Folks:

My shipper just left after dropping off 8 boxes from Don.

This is just a quick sample of what has shown up so far in the three boxes I have opened. I need now to move things around so I can make room to unpack the other 5 boxes.

In the photos, 4 operator's breast microphones, an unidentified SC brass box with rotary switch, a boom microphone to fit my 1240 switchboard, speakerphone and control, credit validating phone, another later explosion phone, another elevator phone, this time from the 500 series, a small switchboard (haven't yet had time to investigate it to see what make or model it is, and an exterior call box, plus tons of stuff I didn't have room to photograph. Then there are still 5 unopened boxes!

There is a bakelite case for a TMC wall magneto set in the lot (now, what would a person need that for?) Well, I just happen to have an identical TMC phone here which has a damaged case. These phones were used as a stopgap measure back when the Island was still mostly magneto, but NE had changed most of their production over to common battery. I was very pleased to see this in the lot, and quite happy!

Update: I received information tonight from Keith Cheshire which identifies the switchboard as an upside down 506A 3 trunk, seven ext. 5 links (paths). Many of these were taken out of service when the newer 4-7 series came out and modified for Civil Defense use.
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twocvbloke

At this rate you'll need to have another house built to expand the museum!! ;D

DavePEI

Quote from: twocvbloke on July 13, 2014, 12:55:12 PM
At this rate you'll need to have another house built to expand the museum!! ;D
That's for sure!

Dave
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DavePEI

#26
Ok, back from unpacking the rest of the boxes. I am exhausted! All kinds of interesting goodies. The board was a 506A 3 trunk, seven ext. 5 links (paths) (only I photographed it upside down  :) ) and another elevator phone, a 320a to add to the 2 520a 's I found in the batch yesterday and the two 320a's I rebuilt earlier in the week. There was also i nice Howler, and several Starlite Wall phones, and a whole slew of other interesting item.

Looks like I will be in a position to share some elevator phones but give me a while.

Just like Christmas!

There's still more on the way, ny the way! IF anyone is interested in any of the items I won't be using, PM me and ask.

Dave
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DavePEI

Linda and I did a lot of work on the last batch this afternoon to make enough room for the arrival of the next batch later in the week.

I re-attached the transmitter to the switchboard boom -- it had come loose from its swaged collet, and amongst many other things, took another photo of the switchboard. There will be some work necessary to it - some of the glue between sections has let go, and it will need refinishing, but that is something I enjoy doing for fun.

I also cleaned up a Bell System first aid kit included in the batch. Also from this batch was a Gamewell fire alarm, now residing beside my 1923 Gamewell/NE alarm in the entry to the museum. This alarm is much more recent than my first Gamewell.

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DavePEI

Nuther Load Today!

Another interesting load arrived today, This was a smaller load as the person carrying it for me had less room in their car than some of the others, but that didn't make it any less interesting.

Included was a neat little Stanley & Patterson anunciator, two NE 17C magneto test boxes, another Russian Princesse (Crouse-Hinds explosion proof phones), an ancient arrestor, and a number of interesting NE intercoms the same as one which came in an earlier shipment. Used as packing material were a bunch of NOS 7 foot switchboard cords!

The Russian Princess has the switchhook arranged for wall mounting.

Don tells me he had a lot more for the museum, and I am looking for more people coming to the Island to bring more down.

Here is a photo of today's lot!
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DavePEI

I have moved our extensive discussion of My Ten Line Magneto Cordless Switchboard received in one of these lots to the Switching area, magneto boards.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=12328.0

Dave
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